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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: Broken_Clock who wrote (949553)7/25/2016 5:22:24 AM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (2) of 1576160
 
Yeah it is. I questioned part of your post. You never were able to come up with an answer. Instead, you kept trying to change the topic to the other parts of your post.

That is known as "changing the subject".

We have gone over those other things on many occasions. As I have noted in the past, I am not a fan of the way things are being done in the ME. And that goes back to when George the Lesser decided that it made sense to topple Saddam. Not that Saddam was a saint by any stretch of the imagination. But because pulling out that particular Jenga block risked causing the entire ME to fall. We had spent decades balancing all of the countries and their corrupt and vile rulers in the ME against each other to keep them from going to war against Israel because of the way they treat the Palestinians.

So what did George the Lesser do? He decided that we needed to take out the biggest counter to Iran. Taking out of the biggest players in an unstable region was not fated to result in stability. And, to no ones great surprise but the morons in the PNAC, it didn't. So the whole patched together pastiche we created started to unravel. Not immediately, but inevitably.

So Obama was left with a huge mess. Now personally I wish he was the leftist ideologue many accuse him of being. But he isn't. He is a right of center "pragmatist" who is influenced by many of the pinheads that got us into the mess in the first place. And many of them believe that it all should have worked if we had only tried hard enough. So we just need to try harder and things will settle out into paradise. But it won't. It can't. It is way beyond any simple answer.

All of the games that we and other players like the Saudis have been playing to gain temporary stability are failing at about the same time. And there really is no way to fix things in the short term. And that means a lot of people are going to die, there will be extreme dislocations and the chaos will have global effects. In a lot of respects it is similar to the events that led to the world wars. There are a lot of differences that means it probably won't work out the same way. But chaos is chaos. Things won't settle down until the whole of the ME is re-arranged into more stable configurations. So pretty much everything needs to be torn down and then rebuilt. That won't be quick. That won't be bloodless. That won't be cheap.

In an ideal world, the British, French and other colonial powers wouldn't have carved the region into pieces that were convenient to them, but were inherently stable. But they did. For our own reasons, we worked within the existing restrictions to patch together some stability. Given the materials, we had a great success. But it wasn't stable. It couldn't be stable. And then we pushed over some very critical dominoes when we took out Saddam. It would have happened sooner or later, but we made it happen sooner.

And now, here we are. The most optimistic scenario is that it will take a couple of decades to sort things out. But we and the other actors seem determined to stretch that out.

And so it goes.
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