| | | Hi koan; Re: "But in your piece which is fairly thought out and one of the few times I've ever seen a conservative admit that the parties changed, you completely overlook Bernie Sanders!";
Thanks for the compliment! As far as the future of the Democrat Party goes, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have these problems:
(1) The Democrat party is betting on minorities but Bernie and Elizabeth are upper class white. Sure Donald is white but he's working class white. (Working class, that is, not in terms of his financial situation but instead in terms of how he uses language, i.e. where to grab girls, etc.. Working class people are very comfortable with Donald and his approval ratings are soaring even though he hasn't yet moved into the office. This is not a good trend for you.)
(2) The Democrat party did everything it could, sneaky or above board, to destroy Bernie Sanders' campaign. There's a reason for that. The Democrats have become the party of the rich, big banks, big corporations and management. And now they're dependent on money from those people (like Soros). It's not just the political campaigns; you need a lot of donations from the wealthy in order to fund all those Democrat organizations arranged around the various special interests like paranoid environmentalism, baby butchering, promotion of godless communism, and the assassination of policemen. And none of those special interests are compatible with the working class. Bernie couldn't attract much money from the very rich. Instead, he got by on donations from small people. Which the Democrat party machine promptly crushed. Those small folks are now being converted into Donald supporters by Donald's world class propaganda. Donald is so good that he is able to beat the mainstream media which is heavily Clinton type Democrat.
(3) Bernie's primary support was from young college educated. I saw a lot of college age kids who were really into him. But that group is not the Democrat's problem. Your problem is *working class* youth, not the kids going to college. And Bernie's programs simply did not speak to working class youth issues. Hey, "free college" is a great sell to college youth but it loses votes among the working class. That fry cook at McDonalds knows she's never going to college. So what Bernie is proposing is to increase her taxes in order to provide free education to the people who will end up being her management. That just isn't attractive to the working class. They're stupid, but not that stupid.
The worst thing that the Democrats are doing to working classes is the huge increase in immigrants which decreases wages. And at the start of his campaign, Bernie recognized this fact. For a decent article on Bernie's approach to immigration (at the beginning of his campaign) see:
Sanders and immigration? It's complicated
Seung Min Kim, Politico, June 19, 2015
Back then, the Vermont independent warned that the immigration bill — a product from then-Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) — would drive down wages for lower-income workers, an argument that’s been used by hard-liner reform opponents. He paired with conservative Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on a restrictive immigration amendment. And Sanders backed provisions characterized as poison pills to unravel the bill, while voting to block the final measure in June 2007.
politico.com
Running for the Presidency, Bernie moved to the standard Democrat position that unlimited immigration is great for the USA! Diversity! That's where you guys get money from management and the very rich. And it's totally incompatible with getting votes from the working class who you are crushing. Now Bernie didn't get money from the vested interests who want working class wages low. But those vested interests are scary enough that they stopped Bernie from running on a position similar to Donald on immigration.
Now that could change. Maybe Bernie will go hard on immigration in 2020. But if he does it will be as a light version of Donald. The public generally votes for the real thing rather than the copycat. And if Donald's immigration policies are popular in 2020 you can expect that Donald will also be popular.
Re: "Bernie Sanders is the future of the Democratic Party.";
That's too bad. At the next presidential election in 2020, Bernie Sanders will be 79 years old. And I'm guessing he'll still be white and male, LOL. Elizabeth Warren will be 71, about 3 years older than Hillary was at this election. And she may be Native American but will still look about as white as the pure driven snow. In other words, you're telling me that that the future of the Democrat party is defined by geriatrics who, in addition to having weak working class support also have weak support among minorities.
Re: "And Trump, was lying to the workers. He lies all the time. Right now what you seeing him doing is organizing the major plutocrats/rich people in this country backed by the military and a Republican Congress to literally tear down the very social fabric of this country, and especially those portions that support the worker and the poor. ...";
Obviously we see this differently. But objectively, as far as politics goes, what matters is not how you and I see truth or lies, but instead how the working class sees it. And Trump is wildly popular with them. You lose:
Trump's Popularity Hits New High
Jason Hopkins, Townhall, December 8, 2016
According to a newly released Bloomberg poll, president-elect Trump is experiencing a dramatic rise in popularity.
The Bloomberg politics poll that was released Wednesday shows 50 percent of respondents having a favorable view of the New York Republican. Forty three percent of respondents view him negatively. The 50/43 split puts Trump at a net positive and marks the first time he's hit the 50 percent favorability threshold in two years.
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Yes, his current favorability is lower than most president-elects before him, but he started in a much lower place. In May, a Quinnipiac survey showed Trump with a 20percent positive rating and 69 percent negative - putting him 49 points underwater.
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townhall.com
Maybe things could end up going your way. But they'll have to reverse course completely, LOL. Hey, who knows, maybe Bernie and Elizabeth will anti-age and be younger 4 years from now.
-- Carl |
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