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Politics : The Trump Presidency

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To: Lane3 who wrote (3800)12/28/2016 9:12:49 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (2) of 354288
 
When you consider Stein's impact, you have to think of it as a basket of variables that work together, but the one that you can control. In the last 50 years or so both Republican and Democratic party have split the vote seven times. And every single time the party that did not split the vote won

What actually happened is sort of a moot point. Whether Stein caused Hillary to lose are not specifically is a moot point. The point is that she hurt her badly. I think I could dig up the votes, because I've seen other people post them, but I'm not going to go to the trouble as like I said it is sort of moot.

And liberal social theory just happens to be actually where the American public are. If you asked them about any of the liberal positions and policies you will see that the majority of people are for them e.g. single-payer universal healthcare, affordable education, raising the minimum wage, even gay marriage. Clean air, clean water, food inspection, tax the rich more.

We actually have the people wanting the same things that modern social science and the liberal platform advocates e.g. reducing income inequality, getting control of the plutocratic hegemony, and making public schools affordable and providing them for preschool and for secondary. The people are for those things.

This election was a tribal election. It was simply the conservatives wanting to get back at the liberals. Trump was wooing them as his champion to beat up the liberals to put it quite plainly. That's why they say we won. They saw it like a competition or a football game.

Most of the Trump voters were also very low information voters who don't want the policies he is getting ready to put forth, but they didn't believe he was really going to do it. He told them one bold faced lie right after another, but because he was appealing to their emotions, to their disdain for liberals, they shunted it all aside.

I mean the most obvious example of that is with the evangelicals.

You tell me on what planet Donald Trump espouses evangelical Christian dogma-lol?-

Do they preach grab their pussies-lol?

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Try Penn and Florida.

Not enough. I count only two states where Trump's margin was less that Jill's vote count. If you have different numbers for those two states, please post source.


Bernie Sanders and Warren are right on according to modern social science.

What other theories are there?


Social science may be helpful to determine the best policies to follow but if those policies don't attract enough voters, it's no cigar. Moral victory, perhaps, but no White House. Tough to choose, sometimes, between being right and being effective.
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