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Politics : The Trump Presidency
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To: neolib who wrote (5498)1/10/2017 10:15:36 AM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 357676
 
Many of those other factors they had when they were less socialized, some of them to a greater extent at that point.

Some factors are things like what people choose to eat (and how much of it), genetics, how much people drive, violent crime, the narcotics trade, the legal culture...

None of those are likely to be changed to any significant degree (or even at all) by socializing health care payment.

Then there is also the fact that health care payment in the US already is largely socialized (and to a large extent its part of the problem in the US).

The only major way the US clearly lags behind in health care is cost containment. In other countries there could be some connection to the socializing of health care with the government being more willing and able to say no to some treatments or to force down compensation for medical providers. But remember health care payment in the US is largely socialized as well and the parts that are socialized have been pretty bad at cost containment, and when they do try to contain costs its not done in an ideal way, impact quality or responsiveness. I don't see a good reason to think that socializing things even more would change that point. As inode pointed out just dropping a system from another country in the the US doesn't mean it would operate the same way here.

Also the extent that everything is so great in other countries is typically exaggerated by those that want to have systems more like them. (As is the extent they have similar systems, when they really have all different sorts of systems and different legal, medical, and insurance policies and culture)
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