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Politics : The Trump Presidency
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To: neolib who wrote (5509)1/10/2017 10:54:44 AM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 357572
 
You make a rather strong claim with almost nothing to back it up. But I'll respond anyway.

Compare different states in the US with different gun control regimes and there really isn't any evidence of gun control being positive in terms of restricting violent deaths, the same holds true when you compare different European countries with different gun control regimes. Also note non-gun murders in the US are higher then in most European countries despite the greater availability of guns here (so that the perp has less difficulty getting a gun, and also has to worry about bringing a knife to a gun fight if he doesn't use one). Outside of murders connected to gangs and//or the drug trade the murder rate in the US isn't so extraordinarily high, but I doubt that socializing medicine is going to do much for these problems.

I also don't think socialized medicine, gun control, etc. would do much about eating habits or anything about genetics (again different groups in the US often live nearly as long, to slightly longer than the same groups of people in the rest of the world)

end up having longer lifespans

That point is questionable, certainly the extent of it is. The factors that make the US official life expectancy figures look somewhat bad compared to another of other rich countries includes things like how infant morality is registered, pension fraud ( nytimes.com bbc.co.uk ) and other causes that are not cases of something other than the medical system causing lower life span in the US, but are things that affect the measured life span without actually changing life span.

More generally across the world, less individualistic and free countries have lower life spans.
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