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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (996680)1/26/2017 4:06:18 PM
From: J_F_Shepard  Read Replies (1) of 1571408
 
As I suggested to you, that signature looks suspicious..... In fact, it is quite controversial.(see story below on the Oregon Petiton). Teller was an early observer of CO2 as the probable cause of global warming then later on modified his views but didn't discard them.....he began to consider ways to prevent the warming and wrote "Sunscreen for the Planet Earth"

Describing a meeting in the White House in September 2001 organized by the US President’s Climate Change Technology Program to discuss ‘Response Options to Rapid or Severe Climate Change’, the article frankly admits that ‘while administration officials were insisting publicly that there was no firm proof that the planet was warming, they were quietly exploring potential ways to turn down the heat.’ In March 2001 President Bush had withdrawn US support from the Kyoto Protocol. This meeting therefore represented something like a US counterproposal to Kyoto, an ‘alternative approach to climate change’. Some years ago Edward Teller, in his ‘Sunscreen for Planet Earth’, made a similar ‘alternative’ proposal.
globalresearch.ca

Also see:

Misleading by Petition
Just What is the Consensus on Global Warming? by Gary J. Whittenberger Ph.D.

skeptic.com

The signature you posted came from the "Oregon Petiton"....

rationalwiki.org
The Oregon Petition (also known as The Global Warming Petition Project) was a petition to the United States government accompanied by a slick brochure written by Arthur B. Robinson, his son, Noah Robinson, and Willie Soon. First circulated in 1998, it urged the government to reject any policies based on concerns over global warming, particularly the Kyoto Protocol of 1997 (which the US has still not accepted).

The project website claims to have signatures from 31,487 scientists who deny that "human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate." [1] It is probably the best known and most frequently quoted petition used by those who wish to deny there is a scientific consensus in respect of the existence of anthropogenic global warming (AGW).


[ edit] Verifiability? Eh? What's that? What the "petition" does in fact have is thousands of largely unverifiable signatures on slips of paper [2] which um... isn't really exactly the same thing. Hmmm, a petition of scientists of questionable repute to challenge a mainstream scientific view using a failed argument from authoritythat's a new one!






All it takes is a scribble, and you too can have a Ph.D.!

The barely legible sample signature on the example slip used by the project could be read to be "Edward Teller." Teller wrote the introduction to the 1987 Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine's reprint of a U.S. government civil defense manual. It would obviously be impossible to verify every signature, and it looks like an invitation for every Tom, Dick and Harry who holds an opinion to send in a form and claim to be a Ph.D.

The Seattle Times reported that it includes names such as: "Perry S. Mason" (the fictitious lawyer), "Michael J. Fox" (the actor), "Robert C. Byrd" (the Senator), "John C. Grisham" (the lawyer-author), not to mention a Spice Girl, aka. Geraldine Halliwell: the petition listed "Dr. Geri Halliwell" and "Dr. Halliwell." [3] The petition also contains duplicate signatures, signatures of a last name only with not even a first initial, and even "signatures" attributed to corporations. [4] (Although as Mitt Romney taught us, corporations are people too.) In an interview, Robinson said, "When we're getting thousands of signatures there's no way of filtering out a fake." Scientific American examined the list and came to the conclusion that a large percentage of the alleged Ph.D. signatures probably are fake. [5]

Notwithstanding its rather dubious methodology, that bastion of scientific rigor, Fox News, has quoted the petition in its news stories. [6]

[ edit] Specialist in everything However, even if one were to assume that every single signature the petition has gathered was genuine, the petition fails in three other regards:

  • The validity of science is determined by the veracity of the evidence, not the number of people who think a scientific proposition is true. Thus the petition is little more than an example of argument from popularity.
  • Even if scientific truth could be derived from the people who accept it, the number of signatures is only a small fraction of all scientists.
  • Even by the admission and records of the petition itself, only a tiny fraction of the people who signed the petition hold a degree in any field relevant or related to climatology, with the plurality of signatures coming from engineers, [7] who are not scientists. The petition might as well be from the general public.
[ edit] See also [ edit] External links [ edit] References
? petitionproject.org Oregon Petition Project homepage ? Oregon Petition Project homepage ? Jokers Add Fake Names To Warming Petition, Seattle Times ? Bashing the Scientific Consensus on Global Warming ? Skepticism About Skeptics, Scientific American ? Fox story quoting said petition. ? "Qualifications of Signers"
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