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Politics : The Trump Presidency

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To: Katelew who wrote (9883)	2/7/2017 7:44:18 PM
From: Lane3	1 Recommendation of 361843

But that's the very kind of situation that really puts the character of a nation to the test. The support for the Constitution should be coming from that very half of the country. I think your view of this is very focused and I think misses the context. There was some effort afoot to turn around this campus situation. Before that got going, Trump sucked all the air out of the country. Which pulled the rug out from under the effort. That effort to restore the character of the nation was sacrificed as it was swept up in a tidal wave. The character of the nation is being tested in more immediately critical ways. The situation that concerns you may be your top priority because everything else is going your way but for those who see bigger threats to the Constitution than the college campus, it's in the back seat. You don't worry about your leaky toilet after having been swept up in a tidal wave. [I wouldn't have thought it possible to get so many mixed metaphors into one paragraph but apparently I did it. Sorry about that.] As I have posted before, I think the fundamental and critical difference in how folks view all of this is whether they think of Trump as another in a long line of presidents and business as usual or whether they find him a different paradigm, inherently threatening to the established order of things. That colors the way they see every event. Someone with the former perspective would focus on the campus situation and see a threat that was there when Obama was president but now exacerbated by all the resistance and thus demanding attention. Someone of the latter perspective would see the whole world going to hell, relegating the campus thing as being just one item in a big pile of threats. That Trump came along when he did effectively cut off opportunities to rein in the campus stridency because those who were strident then are totally aroused. There's no reining them in once the "bad guys" got power and the fight became a war. ... blame the failure of Obamacare on the fact that Republicans didn't get involved in the process. Actually, I believe they did try to have input in the early stages. Now there's something to which I was paying very close attention and I saw it quite differently. I saw it as yet another part of the R's pre-inauguration commitment to digging in their heels in and not cooperating with Obama on anything. Now, Obama may have been quite relieved that they took themselves out of play because that left him with one less player with whom he had to negotiate so maybe he didn't make much of an effort to draw them in. But I saw no indication that "they did try to have input in the early stages." Had it been bipartisan, it likely either would have been better--couldn't have been much worse--or it would have gotten bogged down and not done at all. But even if they didn't and just refused to make any effort or contribution, where is it written that they should have. If they didn't want the healthcare system changed, it's their prerogative to sit back and let the Democrats have at it. I agree that they didn't need to participate in building it. But I do think that the classy thing and the patriotic thing to have done would have been to cooperate enough to enable constructive criticism along the way even as they kept their hands clean. There was plenty of criticism and much of it was quite apt, but in a hostile environment it was not accessible as constructive.

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