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Politics : The Trump Presidency

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To: i-node who wrote (23694)7/6/2017 2:28:11 AM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) of 354610
 
Damn computer just ate my post.

"No one doubts that temps should increase with increasing CO2."
EPA head Scott Pruitt denies that carbon dioxide causes global ...

Rick Perry Denies Climate Change Role of CO2

"But if your estimates are off by 140pct, your experiment has failed."

Perhaps you don't understand the experiment, which is still on-going. We are gonna ( or not, if we are lucky) increase CO2 from 280 ppm (pre-industrial) to 560, and then measure what the temp is on the surface of the planet. Estimates are 1.5 -4.5 degrees above pre-industrial levels.
For those keeping score at home, we spiked to 1.51 in Feb, '16, and daily CO2 is somewhere around 410, so we have a long way to go. There's a new paper saying the full response might be 6 degrees, but that's on a time scale of hundreds of years, as the oceans equilibrate. advances.sciencemag.org

What is off, for a variety of reasons, is measurements of atmospheric temperatures. If it makes you feel better, I'll be glad to throw out what you apparently see as the experiment; can we use satellites to measure the temperature of the atmosphere? Nobody lives in the troposphere, and, AFAIK, Arrhenius didn't make any predictions about it, so I don't mind throwing out atmospheric temps, if it resuilts in climate action.
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