| | | pretty good comments regarding the current state of US politics and how we got here form the 60's
The final comment is pretty hilarious actually
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ohnnycanuck Muroluvmi Oct 12, 2017 2:55 PM
A person could write an essay on that topic but first you would have to define what you mean by the 'left' and which 'left'? The Vietnam war era left, or the Iraq war era left?
Did the anti war effort come only from the left or was it the left and some decent journalists who started it and woke up the un-left? Take the Trumplanders hereabouts for example, one could hardly call them 'left' but generally speaking they sure don't have much interest in more regime change actions and chaos brought about by extreme militaristic adventurism.
The problem with applying the 'left' tag is that it immediately makes the right winghers get their backs up and their minds close like a steel trap. As example mention Occupy Wall St. and see the reaction you get? It of course was quickly branded as a bunch of no account dirty hippie leftists, by the usual suspects who have a vested interest in protecting the system of which the war machine is an integral part.
HardAssets johnnycanuck Oct 12, 2017 3:15 PM
The 60s anti-war left was based on them (or someone in their family) heading off to Vietnam. Once the draft ended, many old hippies no longer gave a damn. And many of them are war hawks when the personal cost to them is zero.
johnnycanuck HardAssets Oct 12, 2017 3:52 PM
Indeed it was more personal for many during the Vietnam era, thus differs from the Iraq war period and why I made the distinction. What became of those people and their thinking however is speculative. Clearly the majority were 'assimilated' and with that can come a change in views. But how many were totally brought into the neocon/lib fold is what no one can answer. There was also a large percentage whose views were set during that time and never changed that much, and as time went on and Afghanistan and Iraq news came along, their views were validated.
Then Obie and Hillary with their betrayals sent a spear through the heart of many of them and that explains to a degree why there is a lack of coordinated effort to resist what is currently taking place. When an opportunity did present itself in the form of an old outlier candidate who rekindled their passions, the corrupt Democrat Party's election machine slammed the door on them. The rest is History now and the result is ReALitY TVee guy sucking up all the oxygen in the room and converting it into copious amounts of fetid hot air.
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