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Strategies & Market Trends : Dividend investing for retirement

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To: Steve Felix who wrote (28148)11/7/2017 9:26:11 AM
From: maverick61  Read Replies (2) of 34328
 
OT - Not really having looked into the detail mechanics of this calculation, but knowing that the government designed this so there has to be even more flaws and loopholes, for giggles I wondered how the formula treated income you tax defer. By this I mean, for someone who is working, if they tax defer money into a 401k plan reducing their AGI. Or for someone non-working, like your friends, if they defer money by making IRA contributions. What I found somehow did not surprise me

healthcare.gov

healthcare.gov

Based on this, MAGI does not include income that is tax deferred. So someone could contribute money to an IRA . Or for someone like ummm me, hypothetically I could retire, and then decide to do some part time consulting. And I could shelter the income I receive in either a SEP (limited to 25% of income) or a one man 401k ($18K per year plus an additional 25% of income )

irs.gov

So lets say after I retire, my estimated dividends and cap gains will be $50K each year. And assume the cap in PA stays at $64K. I not only could generate self employment or W2 income of an additional $14K, but I could in theory earn $32K and tax defer $18K of it in a 401k and still qualify for the free care

None of this makes logical sense to me - but this is the crazy plan the government designed
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