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Politics : The Trump Presidency

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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (44248)11/9/2017 12:32:23 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 359942
 
So you disagree on Trumps War on Opiods?

Its not just Trump's war, Trump might be extending it but the war goes back generations. But yes I disagree with much of what Trump is doing, seems to be doing, or is talking about doing here.

Can you give me an example where they would have any purpose other than to kill more people?

The uses would be pretty much the same uses that fully automatic weapons get put to, from murder, to self-defense, to target shooting and general plinking.

I don't really support a ban, because automatic weapons aren't banned, and because the ban wouldn't be effective. You can bump fire without one of these stocks, or improvise one yourself. Also the vast majority of murders, or even deaths from mass shootings don't involve bump stocks.

I don't care much about laying our purposes, I care about the practical effects of a ban, and I just don't see any real benefit of such a ban. I don't care much to ban something to send a signal that I care about the issue. How do you get from "we're banning bump stocks", to any significant decrease in murder. If the proposal was to place restrictions on bump stocks similar to those on automatic weapons I wouldn't be a big opponent of the effort, but I wouldn't actively support it either.

if two people hadn't been killed and 15 people hadn't been wounded because bump stocks weren't used would that have been worth the effort to outlaw them?

No. I wouldn't ban something because it resulted in two extra deaths and 15 extra injuries. That's in general not just a reference to Vegas. As for Vegas if they were banned the shooter could have likely gotten one or improvised one anyway, or learned to bump-fire without any special hardware, or obtained some other hardware (a crank whatever) to get the same or a very similar effect.
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