Colby, A VERY G O O D CC IMHO!!!!! First, the CC can be listened to at 18006338284 until 1/29/98.
Second the positive items to be reviewed in this CC GREATLY out weigh the negatives so that I think the term of 'Accummulate" from hold is in order, ( for me that is , NOT for others, gg ).
First the negatives:
-Approval by the FDA will be asked by mid Feb and then we have to wait. -out of 1.8 mill units shipped Quarterly, more than the previous Q4 150000 units are going to be shipped to Astra, at lower margins, per previous agreement.( this is something they HAVE to do;when they signed with ASTRA 1 year ago I think that they never imagined it would take this long for FDA to approve). -the above will lower margins. -greater advertising expenses. -the decrease of Quarterly unit production from 2 mill to 1.8, due to the fact that some manpower and equipment had to be moved to new facility. -the slight decrease in demand ( which I inerpret as back log decrease rather rhan net decrease) because of lack of advertising and lack of product availability initially.This is relative however because refills sre going up.So that in absolute numbers they are still running full steam; see in next section on positives ). [I may have forgotten some negatives and so somebody correct me,because I will try and rebuild a completely new URL with all the most pertinent info on Vivus [ hopefully with help from Zebra and other contributors, to include a posting of all the origianl Viagra articles (actuallly there is only one more to scan, I think )]..
The positives:
First Mr Wilson CEO SOUNDED MUCH MORE POSITIVE AND AGRESSIVE!!!! AND FORWARD LOOKING!!.There were NO DEFENSIVE or UNCERTAIN undertones to his voice at all that I could note. -he said at 130 mill $ sales in 97 this is the most successful Urologic product launch ever.And this is with minimal addvertising. -they will concentrate in their GIANT Ad campaign to make this the No1 and 1st prescribed drug in Ed! -Giant Ad campaign to start Feb 15 with the At7TPebble Beach National Pro- Am Golf tournament Then ads in Newsweek Time, magazines, ABC, CBS,Wall Street Journal and other major magazines and TVs. etc. -submit all paperwork for new factory to FDA by Feb 15 and ask them to inspect it and approve it. -They have 75 sales reps , largest in Urology. -the manufacturing problems in their new plant have been COMPLETELY corrected. -they settled their hopefully last lawsuit with a previous consultant, and did so to avoid prolonged litigation costs and to avoid going in front of a jury. ( same old reason. ). -They have been accepted by all the Urologic and medical community well and Managed care so that 70% of prescriptions are now covered compared to 60% in Q2-3.
Probably one of the MOST EXCITING items is that -THEY ARE PRODUCING RIGHT N O W in the NEW PLANT, s i g n i f i c a nT amount of product which they are STOCKPILLING and which willbe shipped IMMEDIATELY as soon as United Kingdom MCA approval comes along, which could be ANYTIME after Feb. Also that product will be available to be ROCKETED OUT THE DOOR as soon as FDA approves the new plant, ( March ? ), as a result of heightened demand from the giant ad campaign. Look for Q3 EPS in the 60-70 cents/share aerea, a Q 4 of .80 with a 1998 eps of at least $ 2. = MrWilsons EXACT quote ( I wrote that down; everything else I am writting is out the top of my head) : " You will see SIGNIFICANTLY INCREAED product NOT TOO FAR doen the road ". -they aim to be the LEADER in ED, (not 2nd to PFE, my quote,gg ).
He answered questions on effectiveness and demand:
-demand and acceptance have increased stedily, according to REFILL prescrip rate which has stedily gone up, and as of jan 3, a slow period, they are up 43% from before.
-the Asensio quoted Italian study, was not published and peer reviewd, was only a letter in the Lancet, was done on the worst ED patients, they were ALL on the needle, their end point was not done according to established Urologic literature methods, their patients were not educated in the use of MUSE as in the NEJM study.Same would apply to the J of Urology study ( less educational qualitty standards, but even so, in their needle patients the response was 37%, better than the 5% Italian: how do you explain that?) -the Lahey Clinic worls renowned diabetes center has a 50% success rate in 300 patients, same as the NEJM classic study with a 45% success rate.Lahey clinic has a much more sophisticated patient education program because they deal with diabetes.
On the issue of shares sold by insiders, Wilson said that they HAVE to sell during fixed windows.That even though they sold 150000 shares in 1997, they also bought 130000.
As far as " share rebuying ", " and why not buy now that it's cheap ", he said that their policy is to answer that question the following quarter from the rebuy, ie Q2 forQ1 buys.As far as Q4 is concerned they bought ~ 300000 shares ( ~ $ 7.5 mill ), so that they can buy 1.7 mill more that were authorized.IMHO, look for a big buy in Q1.
Somebody asked about rumors of Viagra being asked for more study data by the FDA:Wilson simply stated that he would not comment to rumors. Also he did not at this cc mention of adding Viagra to MUSE like he did last time. He did not give aid and comfort to the competition.I guess he probably feels that Viagra must first prove itself in the medical literature and FDA before piggybacking it unto MUSE.He was also generous when the usual Zonagen question was asked: no comment ( ie he was generous in not kicking Zonagen in the gutter where it is laying now. ) In my humble opinion this was a very good cc. It answered a lot of questions.Company management came out forcefully to dispel any rumors about ....gg ? Vivus demise? In Wilson's words, " while we face short trem challenges......we are ready to shoot out the door with 12 cylinders,very soon ".
In a developing luck luster 1998 Market, Vivus remains to be the company to closely follow: whether you buy/hold or buy/ trade, at this point the downside is significantly less than the upside IMO. We'll see tomorrow.On the upside, I am starting my owm 1998 prediction for David's list: put me down for at least $2. You don't need fancy calculations here: Previous factory 9000 sq feet; new factory 90000 sq ft;giant AD campaign and ED demand: sales and eps will easily double if not more.
All in my opinion only. I say NOBODY but NOBODY should conclude from the above that I am even remotely reccommending that ANYBODY including grandpa with ED buy Vivus. These are all MY PERSONAL opinions andI have been wrong many times before ( at least according to my kids, gg ).
Please correct/add to the above so I can keep a corrected version on line. Thanks.
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