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From: grusum	7/13/2019 7:44:59 PM
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some recent good posts on the 'politics for pros' board that should be here for at least reference reasons. i hope the referred to posters will find this board and post here. ---- My first thought was "who says silicon PV is the ultimate"? But, LB is correct - greatest wealth re-distribution scheme in human history. There is not one piece of (unaltered) data or one true scientific experiment to support AGW. 90% of our population will likely freeze/starve to death in the next cooling episode. If the AGW crowd was at all correct, that CO2 leads warming, then the earth would have burst into flames and exploded during one of the past 1x10-5 or 10-6 warming events. We dont live in a greenhouse and the heat exchange with space is more or less balanced....look at Venus and Mars with predominantly CO2 atmospheres. The oceans soak it up when they cool, and lock a bunch of it up in carbonate rocks; they give it up when they warm. The rocks get displaced to the surface and unload CO2. It's the carbon cycle. Message 32235710 ---- Can you cite some evidence that humans are increasing CO2 above historic threshold levels, let alone 10X. Are you aware that recent lows are near starvation levels for most plant life (talk about a catastrophe) and the IPCC goal is near those levels? You also are aware that the impact of CO2 in the atmosphere varies by the natural log (Ln) - increasing chance IR would have already reacted with a CO2 molecule, and if there is to be an impact we would have experienced 80-90% by now with the increases already "reported"......2X or 10X isn't really an issue. Message 32235718 ---- ask why most plants evolved to be happiest at 4000-5000 ppm CO2.....after the ice melted at the start of the current interglacial period (which is about to end), CO2 was only about 240 ppm. At 160 ppm, all plant life dies. The planet was only 80 ppm away from a major extinction event......even at 400 ppm, plants are CO2 starved..... Satellite data shows the deserts are shrinking and the world is greening as CO2 increases.....when we hit the nadar of the current cold period, expected to be at least as deep as the Maunder Minimum, there will be crop failures and world wide starvation. The real worry is the magnetic field is weakening and incoming cosmic radiation is at all time measured highs and continues to climb. Cosmic radiation causes nucleation of water vapour, increasing cloud cover and albedo. This will be additive to the cooling that accompanies the grand solar minimum. Message 32235722 ----

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