Paul - What happened to Carl Johnson? He was certainly willing to spell out why intel was going to be a poor bet when it was selling in the 70s. He was not shy about explaining ON THIS THREAD that WE didn't really understand the economics of the semi industry. Perhaps he was right and just got mangled by foolish investors who simply listened to Intel explain how sales were better than expected and margins were improving. Carl still posts on other threads, but for some reason he has abandoned giving us the benefit of his insights here.
On the subject, what ever happened to Elaine Garzarelli. She was sure the market would tank and her pronouncements helped make for a couple of bad days-weeks. Either she was dead wrong or "her indicators" are not accurate predictors of the future" or she was simply premature and her predictions will come true a bit later.
From Joe Granville to Elaine Garzarelli to Carl Johnson to the old Andy Chen (whom I believe has become at Intel bull of late), the number of people who assert that they know to a certainty the near term future path of the market and particular stocks is large. The correlation between their pronouncements and the results is not terribly compelling.
Oh, I left out Kurlak who, if I remember correctly, put out a sell on Intel in the 50s and then a buy in the 80s. At least he had the sense to adjust to reality.
Why doesn't someone start compiling an authenticated batting average for these guys? I can know the batting average of virtually every mutual fund (and therefore the stock picking and stock timing effectiveness of their methods). As they say, past performance is no guarantee of future performance, but the odds are better when Babe Ruth is at bat, rather than say, Daryl Strawberry.
Two people I knew who happened to be school teachers both quit to become stock brokers. One explained to me and others how he knew what the market and individual stocks were going to do. I believed him (1970 - I was 31) and he managed to lose about 50% of my money in about 2 years (at the end he had me in wheat futures!). The other one became a broker about the time I wanted to buy Intel originally (in 1982). She has become an Intel fan over time, keeps me posted with virtually everything in print that concerns intel and has made various other recommendations over the years that have had a pretty good track record. She doesn't claim to know the immediate direction of the Dow or individual stocks but listens to my thoughts and then tells me what the current consensus opinion is and what her opinion is. I get scared nowadays by people who claim that they know to a certainty what the future holds. They might, but once they establish a poor batting average, I (and I hope many others) lose interest in their pronouncements.
What Elaine Garzarelli should have said is that the market had had a great run, is relatively high in valuation and that all market runs come to an end, sometimes a violent overeaction that can provide a great opportunity. but no one really knows when that will occur so one had to be a little more cautious in a richly valued market than in an undervalued market. The bottom line for me is that I'm less and less fond of market timers and more and more interested in locating solid companies with bright prospects whose future has been overlooked or undervalued by the market. I can't tell you how many of my friends have bought Intel, had a nice short term run, and then sold, never rebuying the stock. Everyone wants to sting the market for a few points and feel smart.
Good investing to all.
Burt |