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Politics : Canadian Political Free-for-All

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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (20042)11/7/2019 6:53:32 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Read Replies (1) of 37285
 
So first of all, there is a big difference between weather (local and short term) and climate (global and long term).

er umm... a tad patronizing no ? ;) .. but glad you brought that up.. House on fire folks point to a weather feature called hurricanes all the time to describe a problem.. but fact is .. hurricanes are weather features.. not climate.. no ? like consecutive cold Novembers in Toronto ?

as to local. weather is the SINGLE most important factor in a garden .. Climate is what you expect.. weather is what you get.. So two seasons in the GTA do not a trend make.. granted... well Bob on the garden thread may not get his garlic in.. too much snow/cold before Nov 1 in Minnesota .. AB and SK and BC interior are freezing.. yes AK is warmer than normal... A huge locality and huge % of earth .. no ?

Now I really do not buy into the CO2 story... because scientific facts show.. we have had far more CO2 in the atmosphere and life flourished.. .. The other church of solar flares and such is equally not on mark IMO... so I am non partisan... but as TJ says.. Lonely path = right way...
most folks do not like to think they want easy to believe... let someone else think for me... and we get... drum roll.. our governments..

and let's be CLEAR... I am NOT disputing overall temperature... I am saying it may be moot...

You are an engineer right ? ... I would encourage you to look a the idea of the earth's axis, obliqueness and how the axis is moving.. the obliqueness is decreasing... and the cycle length is particularly interesting ... you will easily understand the ramifications of that with a bit of google.. When one googles (I already knew :) what causes seasons there is always the codicil stated some people think it is because the sun is closer and further......... and that is said to be not true,,, which is a quite correct statement.. centre on centre.. The obliqueness does matter because distance and ray angle changes for parts at poles.. and low and behold the real temp changes are manifesting themselves at the poles.. we are losing ice...

Wait !!! the deniers (whoever or whatever that means ) say but the ice is increasing in the Antarctic... Of course brilliant (heavy sarcasm) .. when it it is really really really cold snow is really really really rare. Antarctica like much of northern Canada is a frozen dessert.. that changes though if we get warmer.. So a thinking person aware of science will conclude.. oh.. it is likely getting warmer at the south pole also ... hence more snow,... yet still really cold and hence more ice...

NOW.. we have not even touched upon plate tectonics.. which have made a huge impact in a geological second.. in many US places... Heck recently a new submerged continent was found under the Med ? recently .. no not Atlantis :)

Plate tectonics which we have no control over are a big factor also as they affect the axis angle..

Now some more lighthearted stuff...

Greenland ice melting ( I did know it was actually same stuff as Canadian shield ) .. Forget Mr. Trump.. Canada should buy it !! we already got screwed on AK because of foolish Brit meddling in Crimea !!!

I expect that the milder weather to actually destroy or at least complicate the life for a lot of gardeners in Canada.

I am already a zone buster... it is getting tougher.. You said weather.. but CERTAINLY you meant climate..

Weather is NOT milder as much as more extreme.. that is what kill gardens... Milder weather would be boon.. not a killer .. climate not necessarily so..

That statement is dead wrong

This story is lot more complicated than CO2 or solar min/max... but thinking is work.. and the elected folks are typically the least well equipped in that regard..

I cold go on.. but my fish need frying :)

Let's go get some Costco bargains.. that is important.. and we deserve our fate.. not al of us but most... majority rules :(
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