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Politics : The Trump Presidency

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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (143087)11/9/2019 1:34:05 AM
From: koan  Read Replies (2) of 354579
 
As mentioned!
You always struggle with the big picture. Time after time you throw out a few statistics and say: "see"?

We are in "exactly the same place as 1932. The big picture is that the plutocrats and autocrats have seized the nation through the Republican party and have been laying wast to the social systems we spent 100 years developing and have massacred the middle class and poor.

They must be brought heel and the people need to regain power to control them!

You are giving the Republican retort.

let me preset a different set of statistics:

1) Income inequality is as bad as it was in the 1930's. What good is a low employment rate when wages are so low? 50% of the people live near the poverty level, while the super rich are soo rich there is a back log of private jets. Conspicuous consumption is shameful.

2) The plutocrats have a death grip on the country as seen by one obscene tax cut for the super rich after another which has ballooned our debt.

3) After the 2008 crash where the middle class lost 40 of their wealth, the administration helped and protected the super rich, but not the middle class and the super rich bought both stock and real estate at bargain basement prices.

4) The plutocrats have busted the unions which stood at 35% about 40 years ago and are now at about 6% and most of the jobs are low wage service jobs.

5) With citizens united the super rich are buying both politicians and having then having them write legislation favorable to them like low taxes and no regulations and laying waste to the environment. .

6) The super rich plutocrats and autocrats through the Republican party are shredding the social safety net the poor and middle class depend on like food stamps and medicaid, unions, etc.

And there is a 7,8,9 and 10, but I am wore out.

Get it?
<<Message #143087 from Wharf Rat at 11/8/2019 8:47:36 PM

"We are in exactly the same place FDR was in 1936."
That's bad news.

Recession of 1937–38 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The recession of 1937–1938 was an economic downturn that occurred during the Great Depression in the United States.

"We are in exactly the same situation"
No, we aren't even close.

19.0%

Unemployment jumped from 14.3% in May 1937 to 19.0% in June 1938. Manufacturing output fell by 37% from the 1937 peak and was back to 1934 levels.

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"our situation is the same with as much income inequality as there was in 1936"

Income inequality is more of an abstract concept than painful reality when most households own a car, a TV, internet access, and have some form of health care. We even have homeless people living in their own RVs. There are just over 500,000 homeless now. During the Depression, there were 2 million, in a much smaller country. This isn't '32 or '36; little pain, little gain.

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This is really difficult for you, but I want a one-letter answer.

Would you rather
a) win Calif. by 6 million, and lose Mi,Wi, and Pa by 140K,
or
b) win all 4 by 100K?
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