And I heartily recommend this interview on the Intelligence Matters podcast. Osterholm is a very intelligent doctor who keeps up with current news on COVID. They cover a lot of ground in this interview. It was done on July 21, so it is pretty up to date, even given how quickly news moves on this disease.
Top Epidemiologist Dr. Michael Osterholm on the Continuing Challenges of COVID-19
In this episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell speaks with top infectious disease epidemiologist Dr. Michael Osterholm, who is also director of the Center for Infectious Disease at the University of Minnesota, about the knowns and unknowns, to date, of COVID-19. Dr. Osterholm reviews the latest data on infection and transmission rates, the likelihood of an effective vaccine, and explains what needs to happen before contact tracing can be effective. He and Morell discuss the U.S. policy response, the need for leadership, and what other challenges remain to containing the coronavirus' spread.
And yes, Wilkerson's interview is excellent.
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