Hi Bill; What gets me is, is my main indicator was positive, and I went aginst my own indicator, because the money thing, said down ; yet I'm the one who says indicators should confirm one another. This is not a habit with me, and at least I caught myself at it. ----------- Market looks up at the open this morn, past that I don't know but I cant watch it today ( doctor app. ) so I'm closing my short on the open at market. Lucky for me I was only playing 300. Did you follow that post were I think; say all things even, like I mean say your long one time, and short the next, and the market goes up 10pts when your long, and down 10pts when your short. I seem to be able to do better on the long side, with the same market move. That appears to be because of the way the market gives you less time to get in and out on the short side, like the short side trend more often ends with one steep drop that don't last long, and it's hard to close on the bottom of it. The top can fool me but at least for me I seem to be able to exploit more of a trend up than one down; other things being equall. Also maybe with the up trends I'm not as greedy, and don't hold untill as much of the reversal catches me. Jim |