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Gold/Mining/Energy : Green Hydrogen

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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (64)12/5/2020 11:50:02 PM
From: gg cox  Read Replies (1) of 2050
 
Fuel cell energy,, Bloom,, and Plug probably bankrupt in

five years time.

Plug does not generate profit,, no profit for years, and

dilutes shareholder lambs to the tune of almost a billion

dollars so they can continue on with folly of “ green

hydrogen “ Hydrogen Fuel cell forklifts ridiculous and

unnecessary. Walmart and Amazon only support

for Plug.

Battery powered fork lifts have been used in warehouses

for over 80 years, no indoor pollution period. Back the

dying battery onto the charger and lower in a fresh one

or recharge overnight. Lithium ion batteries of today

would power it for days without charge ,or switch.

No humping truck loads of volatile hydrogen to the plant,

Just wires for charging ,,already in place.

<<15 years ago, I kissed it off as a solution because it's too inefficient. I'm definitely re-considering that. I want lots of storage, and it certainly help>>

15 years ago you were correct and you still are.

Almost 20 years ago I bought 8 six volt batteries that

were 25 years old at that time. I recently had to weed out

only 2 of them with dead cells ,, lead acids yes which I

recycled at scrap yard for $65. These were for my solar

system and yes 45 years old. Of course,, no comparison

at all ,to modern Lithium ion batteries of today ,,but

demonstrates the “”mining “”aspect of battery’s lead.

Our around town car is a Nissan Leaf ,8 years old and

degraded only 2 bars. Can we get another 4 years out of

it? Probably ,,yes ,, then use batteries as storage for solar

then bring batteries in for future “” mining”” of its

minerals .

Every step of hydrogen production is ..lose,, all the way

through the chain,, every step ,,and there are many all

the way to the fuel cell which is only useful for limited

applications.

And yes,, hydrogen the most volatile of all.

Introduce it to air accidentally and kaboom!

Musk is correct re hydrogen.
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