SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Pastimes : Ask Mohan about the Market

 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext  
To: studdog who wrote (13693)2/1/1998 12:03:00 PM
From: edward miller  Read Replies (2) of 18056
 
Karl, This is exactly the argument with which I disagree.

>> If interest rates rise or earnings fall then the market will fall,
>> regardless if the yuppies are buying in their pension funds or not.
>> Liquidity might influence day to day or week to week moves somewhat
>> but over time it is earnings, the expectation of future earnings
>> and the interest rate environment that dictates stock market
>> valuations.

What I sense over years - not day-to-day or week-to-week - is that
the valuation criteria is changing. Look at it this way, when rates
are rising the markets fall only slightly (consolidate) and then when
rates fall the markets rally to higher highs. The important point
is that these higher highs are not proportional to increased profits,
but go beyond the profit increase. This is very obvious in valuations
of the market indicators. We all know that market pricing swings from
one extreme to another when the stock market swings from bull to full-
fledged bear.

What I see is a market whose valuation keeps rising with respect to
the fundamentals behind it - gradually over years. I could not tell
you how often I've seen historical data that shows we are at historic
highs in valuations - worse than before the 1929 crash. I am not
predicting a crash in this post, but I'm also not saying the opposite.

As a result of not seeing any meaningful correction of valuations I
realized that there was likely something driving this phenomenon. My
conclusion is that the changes in the tax laws, such as creation of
401(k) and other investment options are driving money into the stock
market at an unprecedented rate. With the boomers taking advantage of
the tax benefits to save for retirement, this could be forming a stock
market bubble far beyond anything seen before. The key word is COULD.
I am not saying absolutely that this is happening.

I brought this up on another thread for discussion - and it's open for
discussion here if there is interest.

Again, this is all JMHO. We all read the leaves differently.

Ed Miller
Report TOU ViolationShare This Post
 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext