re: golfer72 ["Just a question though on moving out of Blue states and cities. It makes sense but how do you combat whats coming? You know vaccine cards needed to travel, shop, get medical care etc. Social credit scores that will also affect access to the same things. That wont change based on which state you are in. Interested in your thoughts. And since the Dems have proven they can steal elections your red state or city is just one stolen election away from going right back down the drain. A lot to process here."]
I guess I get to play the "good cop" now since you've already received some helpful "tough love"
responses <vbg>.
First, to your point of there being "a lot to process here."
Very true. And it's only going to get worse as I firmly believe the rate of change of what we see unfold
politically, is only going to accelerate in the near future.
As far as social credit scores being the same everywhere....
I don't think that's anywhere on the top 100 worry list, so not a real obstacle to relocating. They won't be
enforced the same everywhere - thats the point.
As far as worrying about red cities or states getting flipped by elections being stolen, that's not a real
issue... think about the local culture. If you pick the right area the local populations will resist and
will not cooperate with leftist agendas. There are cities and entire regions that stretch hundreds of
miles that are as conservative as DC, or NYC are liberal. That's where you want to go. Think culture
as much as politics.
Here's the thing...
Everyone has unique circumstances and priorities .
The first thing I would do is to think through what you view as potential threats, worries and
concerns and write them down and prioritize them...
And then start listing what your practical solutions and options are.
Threats being major issues like is your state or local government apt to adopt forced vaccinations,
continued economic lockdowns, contract tracing, travel passports (proof of vax), gun bans with the
potential for confiscation (higher risk if you're a registered CCW holder and/or have made recent
firearms purchases in a blue city/state) because they have all those records and if they ever start
with confiscations, these lists are where they'll start.
Firearms may not be so much of a priority for some. They may feel fine with a .38 special and
an old pump shotgun and may not be worried or concerned with new gun laws or confiscation.
For others - this may be a top priority and reason to relocate alone.
Are you at risk for social unrest/riots where you live?
I think you'd have to be insane to stay in a city like Baltimore/D.C., Philly, NYC, Chicago,
Atlanta, LA, Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle and scores of other cities that have already seen
significant unrest.
Do you have access to fresh water (your own well vs. local utilities) and the ability to heat
your home and cook your food if your power through your local utilities goes down for an
extended period of time (EMP/Cyber attack etc)?
A bigger concern imho if you rely on a nuclear plant for power than say a natural gas plant
with coal fired back up.
Are you close to local food production/farming and farmers markets, if supply lines are affected?
Could you walk, bike there if necessary if gas pumps were out from an EMP etc? Do you
have a garden, can you start one?
And most importantly, do you have freeze dried foods + pantry storage for at least 90 days
minimum/6 mos+ ideal? Do you have water stored (20 cases of bottled water that you can
rotate every week costs less than $75 in my area). Do you have a couple of 55 gal water
storage barrels you could keep in the basement or garage? If no room, how about a
couple of 5 gal jugs made for water storage? Do you have a water filter you could use
to recycle captured rain water, or water collected from a lake, river, or pond?
If you aren't open to relocating - is your home secure if we experience social unrest/riots
that unexpectedly come to your area? Do you have plywood stored in the garage or
basement that you could quickly screw over the windows facing the street in an emergency?
Do you have an alarm/security system? Adequate lighting, locks on the door, fencing, a dog,
firearms etc.?
And most importantly, do you have a support group within your immediate neighborhood,
do you know your neighbors, have a neighborhood watch group (or more)? Being a lone
wolf only works on TV, not in real life. You need to establish or join some type of local
"support" network of like-minded people. A local church group with a food pantry is
a great start. Join the local civil defense network, join a local ham-radio group, a gun
or conservation club where you'll meet like-minded people.
Job #1 is to get prepared where you are now.
Now, as to relocation...
Again, everyone has their unique circumstances.
Once again, I would write out a list of pluses and minuses.
What would you really be giving up by moving, versus what lifestyle benefits, peace of mind
and enhanced safety and security could you gain by relocating?
Write out the major obstacles to relocating and possible solutions...
Your job, are you still working or retired? If working, can you find a similar job/equal pay if you
move, and/or are you willing to make a fresh start?
Family, older parents, adult vs. still at home children (school issues), serious medical issues
that may require access to certain medical locations?
I'll make one point on staying in place to be near children/grandchildren...
How likely are they to move? It doesn't make sense for you to stay in an area you'd
like to leave if they're likely to relocate for job reasons sometime in the near future
themselves.
Also, I've lived in Florida and have many friends who still live there...
I never had any problem with family coming to visit me in Florida and neither do
my friends. Now if you live in NY and move to Boise, Idaho, that may be a challenge.
Can your family afford to fly if you're separated by distance that's impractical to drive?
Moving a six or even an eight hour drive away is insignificant for travel. Is there a reasonable
relocation option a six or eight hour drive away? There's a world of difference between say
Bluefield, West Va. and Baltimore for example, and its less than a six hour drive. Leave
at 7 am and you're there by 1 pm.
Family and jobs are a big issue that only you can decide.
And I will say this again, I would think this through now, because your options will only narrow,
be eliminated, or get much more expensive when things accelerate.
As far as where to go?
Again, it depends on your unique circumstances and priorities.
The great American redoubt in Eastern Washington, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming,
the Dakotas and Utah is great if you can handle the winters...
I like the Ozarks, Missouri is as conservative and pro-gun as Texas, if not more so,
with the exceptions of St. Louis and K.C. Stay in Southern Mo/Northern Ark and you
avoid any major overflows from major urban centers, have massive farming, food
production, an abundance of lakes, rivers, natural springs and resort and lifestyle
centers like Branson and Lake of the Ozarks.
Florida is pro gun and has one of the best Gov's in DeSantis. but, I saw first hand
how Tampa changed from the late 80's to the 2020's from all the northern liberals
coming for job growth. Northern and Central Florida, and places like Polk County
with one of the best Sheriffs in America are great.
As GNG said, West of the Mississippi is best, but I know people who've found great
places in Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont... and West Va. Kentucky, Tennessee and
the Carolinas, even North Georgia have positives as well.
Texas is unique with it's own power grid which is huge, it has tremendous oil & gas
resources, major ports... but, I wouldn't want to live anywhere near the border, or any
of the major cities like Houston, Dallas/Ft. Worth, San Antonio, El Paso or Austin.
Is it paradise with no downside? No, again the big cites and spillover in a crisis, it's
hot as hell - that might be a no-go for many. It's ripe for mass inflows should mass
migration be driven from South and Central America, or Mexico. Border - cartel
risks etc. Only you can decide.
Pay particular attention to Governors and local Sheriffs in addition to local governments
where you choose to relocate.
I really recommend Joel Skousen's book on relocation - google it if you're ready to move.
That's my rant... hopefully it gave you some ideas.
My main suggestion: begin to think through all the possible scenarios of what's to come -NOW.
Write things down as you think them through and plan them out.
Start thinking through all your options and what you would do if x, x, or x happens.
Make written lists. What you plan to do, what you need to buy etc.
Keep a binder. Writing things out helps to clarify your thinking and gives you a written
to-do list as you prepare for when/if things turn spicy.
Get squared away now where you are, get connected with like minded people, then start
planning to relocate if it makes sense...
And even if it isn't possible, practical or feasible to relocate now...
Have a Plan B, in case the day arrives where you MUST.
SOTB |
