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To: gg cox who wrote (170529)	4/15/2021 8:07:46 PM
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Do you generally agree,, it takes more energy units to manufacture hydrogen... than it gives back. Every form of energy we use takes more energy units to manufacture than it gives back... The only question is... at what differential cost... and who has to pay for the units used to manufacture ? Hydroelectric is enormously inefficient... as a total system. But if you only concentrate on the % concentrate... that nature provides free of charge... :<)... ??? The problem with hydrogen... thus far... is that it has not been linked to sufficient forms of piracy from other energy transfer mechanisms that it "appears" to be "free"... on a cost basis... not an energy budget basis. Horizontal drilling and fracking... keeps making oil cheaper... as it has its own innovation curve altering the relative cost of producing fracked oil over time... relative cost... compared to others costs... ? I studied fuel cells fairly intently for a few years... haven't been back to look at them again, but generally accept they're getting better... more efficient... But, what's been done in the parallel efforts trying to make hydrogen cheaper ? That's NOT about the same tech curve in reverse... but about using some other waste energy source as a "free" driver ? What's the loss in efficiency in SURPLUS solar or wind power that is used to generate storage as hydrogen... instead of storage in a grid battery... or just wasting the potential ? What's the energy density/portability/longevity values in different forms of storage... particularly as storage with more permanency ? Surplus solar in July... stuffed into a battery... probably not much use in late December ? Catalysis... in context of multi-factoral free energy sources (waste heat, waste electricity, waste noise, waste light, etc. ) paired in reducing costs... is under-explored... Catalysts need to be tuned, not to optimize efficiency at whatever cost... but to optimize exploitation of whatever has no cost...

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