Re <<We are suckered in by the msm, who in turn are owned by those who want war>>
moments of lucidity might succeed in overcoming unwarranted prejudice and deter unjustified dependence
let us see if recent wobbles shake the faithful back into agnostics
if I am guessing, and I am, the Biden may have done more damage in 7 months than any other Potus in 48 months
riverineherald.com.au
Russia, China needed to curb Taliban: UK
Aug 22 2021
Afghanistan - AAP
Britain will have to turn to Russia and China to exercise a "moderating influence" over the Taliban, despite a mistrust between the UK and those governments, Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab says.
"We're going to have to bring in countries with a potentially moderating influence like Russia and China, however uncomfortable that is," Raab told The Sunday Telegraph newspaper.
The Taliban seized power last weekend from the US-backed government, sending thousands fleeing and potentially heralding a return to the militants' austere and autocratic rule of two decades ago.
Britain and China have recently been at odds over various issues, including Hong Kong and alleged human rights abuses against China's Uighurs.
Ties between London and Moscow also have been on ice since the 2018 poisoning of ex-double agent Sergei Skripal in Salisbury, England.
British forces have pulled out 3821 people from Kabul since August 13, according to Britain's Ministry of Defence, including 1323 who have made it to the UK.
This includes embassy staff, British nationals and Afghans eligible for relocation.
Former British prime minister Tony Blair said late on Saturday the "abandonment" of Afghanistan was "tragic, dangerous, unnecessary, not in their interests and not in ours".
Blair, who sent British troops into Afghanistan in 2001, said the decision to withdraw was driven "not by grand strategy but by politics".
He said Britain had serious reflection to do after "little or no consultation" by the United States in the decision to pull out from Afghanistan.
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