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To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (35926)9/4/2021 7:54:31 PM
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The big problem with what you are saying is that there is no such thing as "conservative values."

To begin with, "conservative values" are like religion. They mean whatever the speaker wants it to mean. Kind of like Islam that is religion of peace to some people and a call to uprising for others. Ditto for Christianity. It is a religion of charity and helping the fallen for some people, and a source of bombings or crusades for others. Are the evangelicals conservative? Were the Neocons conservative? Is the GOP conservative?

Byond this, even when you manage to define conservative values, you will find out that they were not conservative values to start. Are freedom, equality, and being entitled to the fruits of labor conservative values? Originally they were not conservative values. The conservatives were slave owner and aristocrats. They believed in social tiers and "honor". The progressives were Adam Smith and a bunch of rebels who said the hell with his lordship we are not going to give damn about the blood lines. They declared all men to have inalienable rights. Those were not conservative talking points. This process repeated again. Should women have the right to vote? Voting rights were not a conservative talking point.

Conservatism means you want to keep the society as is. You don't like the change and if you are going to tolerate it, it should come with a lot of provisos and be a snail's pace change. In a hundred years, a stable gay family will be a conservative value and something else will be what the conservatives rile against.

PS You do the all American thing of confusing conservatism with party affiliation and/or capitalism. Dumbing down the political language and making it impossible to form coherent thought has been going on since way before George Orwell wrote about it. If you were in Russia, conservatism would mean communism. And if you were in Saudi, it would mean a very strict Wahhabism. Conservatism is not some value and it is not constant. It is a stance against change.
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