I am sure everyone cares, but I am also sure many are not seeing the "big" picture.
IMO, this was a bad idea from every perspective including humanity, militarily and politically which is why I think Obama did NOT do it.
This decision will cause trouble for Biden and the Democrats for a long time.
To see how poorly this was planned out, I hate to even use that word planned, all one has to do is look at the way the immigration was conducted, it was total chaos.
Yes, Trump and Steven Millar, ambushed it, but Biden should have fixed that before he started to leave, he didn't bother and so the shit show.
Here is what we will see going forward. The Taliban and Alqaeda will join forces with neither having the slightest clue as to how to run a county. Can you imagine them reading a book other than the Koran?
They will institute hard core Sharia law and this hard line behavior plus the social devolution, will cause the economy to plunge and social structure to collapse, and be like a wide spread Mad Max world, with pervasive famine.
Between the beatings and killings, and starvation, people will try to flee any way they can,. and as Biden said we would work to get our allies out, thousands will feel they are among those wo should be allowed in, OR they will fake it and how does Biden deal with that?.
Biden will have to say NO, and so people will be pissed at him for saying no, and others for his allowing so many refugees into the country, so lose, lose, and the problem will stay in the headlines and hurt us badly in the next election as many Independents will stay home.
The women are already being crushed and as Nik Robertson said, that means an entire generation of girls raised under American protection will now have to live under Sharia law and not be allowed to be free in even the least, even to go to the store alonet!
And from a military perspective it will create huge problems allowing them to grow and fester with no ability to check them.
And from a humanitarian perspective it will be akin to the German's brutality.
It would have been better to stay in until we had a better plan to exit.
<,Message #479223 from S. maltophilia at 9/6/2021 3:55:38 PM
I think everyone on this thread cares, but we know that we have no idea how to fix it. From Spiral3's link (it looks TLDR, but it's damn well worth reading).
....Villages like Pan Killay were lucrative targets: there were farmers to tax, rusted Soviet tanks to salvage, opium to export. Pazaro, a woman from a nearby village, recalled, “We didn’t have a single night of peace. Our terror had a name, and it was Amir Dado.”
The first time Shakira saw Dado, through the judas of her parents’ front gate, he was in a pickup truck, trailed by a dozen armed men, parading through the village “as if he were the President.” Dado, a wealthy fruit vender turned mujahideen commander, with a jet-black beard and a prodigious belly, had begun attacking rival strongmen even before the Soviets’ defeat. He hailed from the upper Sangin Valley, where his tribe, the Alikozais, had held vast feudal plantations for centuries. The lower valley was the home of the Ishaqzais, the poor tribe to which Shakira belonged. Shakira watched as Dado’s men went from door to door, demanding a “tax” and searching homes. A few weeks later, the gunmen returned, ransacking ....
...Abdul Rahman, a farmer, was rooting through the refuse with his young son when an Afghan Army gunship appeared on the horizon. It was flying so low, he recalled, that “even Kalashnikovs could fire on it.” But there were no Taliban around, only civilians. The gunship fired, and villagers began falling right and left. It then looped back, continuing to attack. “There were many bodies on the ground, bleeding and moaning,” another witness said. “Many small children.” According to villagers, at least fifty civilians were killed.
Later, I spoke on the phone with an Afghan Army helicopter pilot who had just relieved the one who attacked the outpost. He told me, “I asked the crew why they did this, and they said, ‘We knew they were civilians, but Camp Bastion’ ”—a former British base that had been handed over to the Afghans—“ ‘gave orders to kill them all.’ ” As we spoke, Afghan Army helicopters were firing upon the crowded central market in Gereshk, killing scores of civilians. An official with an international organization based in Helmand said, “When the government forces lose an area, they are taking revenge on the civilians.” The helicopter pilot acknowledged this, adding, “We are doing it on the order of Sami Sadat.”
General Sami Sadat headed one of the seven corps of the Afghan Army. Unlike the Amir Dado generation of strongmen, who were provincial and illiterate, Sadat obtained a master’s degree in strategic management and leadership from a school in the U.K. and studied at the nato Military Academy, in Munich. ..... |
