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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It?

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From: TimF2/11/2022 12:42:00 PM
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The-WideningGyre
· 22 days ago

The Canada subreddit is currently abuzz about Jordan Peterson giving up his University of Toronto tenured professorship. The comments are a pretty heady mix, which is actually somewhat encouraging. One major lesson to draw is -- check original sources yourself. It's often not much work, and you really can't trust motivated others to accurately (or even truthfully) represent things for you. The amount of sheer lies and misrepresentation (and claims of lies -- check yourself, don't believe me!) about him is pretty stunning.

But the most interesting thing for me I came across was some hard data: straight out discrimination on the basis of gender. For the position of Research Chair of Nuclear Waste Storage "This appointment is open only to qualified individuals who self-identify as women", linked to from the open faculty positions page.

So some hard data on what is happening, and legal, in academic circles. It makes me sad, disgusted, and angry, and crosses a line I didn't think the well-intentioned DEI folk would. I guess they are unwilling to stand up to the more extremist DEI folk.

I'm also pretty happy I decided against academia 25 years ago, although not because I saw this coming (although even then we were massively privileging the few women who were doing grad studies in CS).

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· 22 days ago · edited 22 days agosumptuary law enthusiast

Yup, this is how it is now, in the Canadian Federal Government as well. That line was crossed a long time ago.

I recently applied for a position for which I'm fully qualified. I certainly expected to get an interview. I received this statement back that I am being removed further consideration for the position as I "have not self-identified as a member of an EE group". Employment equity (EE) groups are "women, Aboriginal peoples, persons with disabilities, members of visible minorities".

So, colour in that Venn diagram and I'm being excluded because I'm a White Male who won't lie to get a job. I had the general impression that diversity hiring was more thumb on the scale style biasing, not straight up GTFO white male. But here we are.

This is the worst kind of discrimination.

Ha ha! Of course, it's not. Even though a naive reading of this Canadian Human Rights Act explainer would seem to imply this is not allowed, it turns out to be government policy so it couldn't be discrimination \s. And not just permitted but actively encouraged...

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