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steve harris
To: carranza2 who wrote (761884)4/24/2022 9:55:55 PM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) of 793712
 
Are we ready, as Mearsheimer suggests, to have the Russians be forced to use tactical nukes in Ukraine?

.......what are you saying?.......because Putin MIGHT be stopped from his goals in Ukraine by an unexpected resourceful Ukrainian defense.....that result forces Putin to use tactical nukes.... and therefore we must stand by and allow him to attain his goals..... because otherwise Putin MIGHT escalate further??..........Tell me what exactly are Putin's goals?.....I say before I abandon the Ukrainians, I need to know exactly what are Putin's goals......so what are they carranza2?.....be specific.......I gots to know.

.....note the time line

Message 33800235 April 13

Message 33801979 April 15

Message 33806259 April 18


Friday 22 APRIL 2022, 11:44

https://mind.ua/en/news/20240166-the-russian-defense-ministry-named-the-goals-of-the-second-phase-of-the-special-operation-in-ukrai

Quote. “Since the beginning of the second phase of the special operation, which began just two days ago, one of the tasks of the russian army is to establish full control over Donbass and southern Ukraine. It will allow us to provide a land corridor to the Crimea, and also to influence vital objects of the Ukrainian economy,” minnekayev declared.


theguardian.com

Russian commander suggests plan is for permanent occupation of south Ukraine

Rustam Minnekayev speaks of aim for land corridor to Crimea, despite Putin’s earlier claims

despite already having a connection to Crimea (4 vehicle lanes / 2 train tracks )

goo.gl


FRIDAY, APR 22, 2022 - 12:00 PM
zerohedge.com

Following up on earlier pronouncements that Russia will "liberate" the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine, Russia's military now says it aims to seize the whole of the south as well.

The New York Times has reported the Friday statement of a Russian senior military commander, Gen. Rustam Minnekayev, as saying the aim is to take "full control of the Donbas and southern Ukraine."

The Russian commander in the Friday statements confirmed that the military plans to establish a land corridor linking up Crimea and the Donbas. But the fight for Ukraine's south figures heavily into this, according to Gen. Minnekayev:

And in a line that will be concerning to Chi?inau, he is also reported to have said that control of Ukraine’s south will give Russia another gateway to Moldova’s breakaway region of Transnistria.

“Control over the south of Ukraine is another way to Transnistria, where there is also evidence that the Russian-speaking population is being oppressed,” Tass quoted Minnekayev as saying at a meeting in Russia’s central Sverdlovsk region.

This puts Odesa in the crosshairs, which is home to Ukraine's navy, and which has so far largely escaped direct heavy attack.


April 23
dailymail.co.uk

Eight people including three-month-old baby are killed as Putin blitzes Odessa with cruise missiles
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April 24...here skinowski FINALLY does the grand pivot with his "revelation."

"My best guess - at this point, after expending so much blood and treasure - and angering half of the world - the Russians will not settle for their original demands. They will want Donbas and the territories along the South."

......well duh
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