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To: cosmicforce who wrote (494123)	7/8/2022 11:01:11 AM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) of 540695

I am not sure what you are getting at? College for me totally change my life and I am so grateful for the community college system and the other public universities. College saved me!! When I entered I had very little schooling as I was poor and had to work all the time. I did no homework all through high school. I feel the primary reason to go to college is to develop one's mind. In college people not only learn specific stuff, they learn how to "learn" and they learn how to organize their thoughts and they become much smarter as a result. If you watch Jordan Klepper interviewing those Trump supporters what is so apparent is that the people are unable to organize their thoughts both for lack of information, but also practice in logic and organizing their thoughts. Getting a job was not my motivation, learning was my motivation, and anyway, once one develops their mind, they can do all sorts of things not related to their major e.g. when I wrote our states EMS plan under PL 93-154, I had never even had a first aid course, but I knew how to read and learn and I learned EMS as I wrote it. And I did it all in just six weeks working 12 hours a day. There was a lot of cut and paste, but it also ended up being 1400 pages-lol!! Toughest thing I ever did and was surprised I did it-lol!! And that plan is still being used today pretty much as I laid it out. When I started college I didn't even know what the word society meant or rhetoric. I thought it mean high society-lol. I was soooo ignorant. By the time I finished I was an existentialist. I know what raw ignorance is and today because of college I know exactly why Plato was important and what Sartre was talking about. I think anyone who does not take advantage of college is really missing out. <ot my opinion. catalog.csus.edu From CSU itself - in geology a full time load was considered 13-14 units because of the field work which gave one unit for 8 hours. In their catalog they showed normal graduation took FIVE years which included a six week summer field course and two years of every other weekend field courses in every term in which major courses were taken. These were impacted and couldn't be taken every term. [For 128 unit BS - not all are "only" 120 units - hard sciences are often more, a]ll CSU students must meet the minimum of 48 semester units of General Education (GE)-breadth requirements in order to earn the bachelor's degree. The GE requirement includes 39 semester units of lower-division coursework and at least nine semester units of upper-division coursework. When I got my second degree there was a further stipulation that NINE of that HAD to be at that campus (not just in the same university system so they double dipped) and repeated locally. This seemed to be a make work program for social sciences where no one would ever get a job with that major. I graduated with 136 units instead of 120 because they didn't count some courses taken at other campuses for the campus-specific requirements. My case was not unique. It is almost always the General Education that doesn't transfer unless someone takes business calculus instead of "full calculus" or "bone head physics" and not physics I. This was not my case. calstate.edu

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