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To: TobagoJack who wrote (192338)10/4/2022 3:18:47 PM
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Hooray for our great and estimable hero Elon Musk. This confirms my suspicions for years [decades]. Elon Musk reads my Silicon Investor posts then 1, 5, 10 or 20 years later does what I proposed. Or, it's possible that engineers/scientists with imagination and broad understanding of economics, people and whatnot, operating from first principles conclude the same things. Except that he has gone wrong on Greenhouse Effect aka Global Warming aka Climate Change because he got his first principles wrong in that case. With a false premise, all that's built on top is in failure mode.

Anyway, cutting to the chase - here is his and my proposal for no more war in Ukraine or Peoria, Londonistan or Vladivostok, Moscow or Washington DC. Zelensky sees cash flow in grave danger - launches attack on Elon Musk. I note that Zelensky was too cowardly to offer to fight Putin one on one for Ukraine as prize. Elon did.

Zelensky preferred to send umpty thousands of people to their doom and transfer megatons of loot to himself and buddies/sidekicks/servants, his DementiaJoe10%/Hunter/Pelosi/Graham/Obama/Nuland and co counter-parties, with gigatons of profit to Raytheon, Northrop, Lockheed et al
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/300704801/elon-musk-enrages-ukraine-by-proposing-divisive-russia-peace-plan


Elon Musk enrages Ukraine by proposing divisive Russia peace plan

Billionaire Musk irks Zelenskiy after polling a 'peace plan'
18 hours ago

Tech billionaire Elon Musk has gotten into a Twitter feud with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky after he floated a divisive proposal to end Russia’s invasion.

The Tesla CEO, soon facing a court fight over his attempt to abandon a US$44 billion offer to buy Twitter, argued in a tweet on Monday that to reach peace, Russia should be allowed to keep the Crimea Peninsula that it seized in 2014.

He also said Ukraine should adopt a neutral status, dropping a bid to join Nato following Russia’s partial mobilisation of reservists.

Musk also crossed red lines for Ukraine and its supporters by suggesting that four regions Russia is moving to annex following Kremlin-orchestrated “referendums” denounced by the West as a sham should hold repeat votes organised by the United Nations.

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Musk noted Crimea was part of Russia until it was given to Ukraine under the Soviet Union in 1950s and said that a drawn-out war would likely not end in a resounding Ukrainian victory.

These positions are anathema for Zelensky, who considers them pro-Kremlin. The Ukrainian leader has pledged to recover all the terrain conquered in the war and considers Crimea as Ukraine’s to reclaim as well.

Musk also launched a Twitter poll asking whether “the will of the people” should decide if seized regions remain part of Ukraine or become part of Russia.

In a sarcastic response, Zelensky posted a Twitter poll of his own asking “which Elon Musk do you like more?”: “One who supports Ukraine” or “One who supports Russia.”

Musk replied to Zelensky that “I still very much support Ukraine, but am convinced that massive escalation of the war will cause great harm to Ukraine and possibly the world”.

Andrij Melnyk, the outgoing Ukrainian ambassador to Germany, responded to Musk’s original tweet with an obscenity.

“Russia is doing partial mobilisation. They go to full war mobilisation if Crimea is at risk. Death on both sides will be devastating," Musk wrote in another tweet. “Russia has (over) 3 times population of Ukraine, so victory for Ukraine is unlikely in total war. If you care about the people of Ukraine, seek peace.”

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was not amused by Elon Musk’s tweets.
The Kremlin itself chimed in, praising Musk for his proposal but warning that Russia would not backtrack on its move to absorb the Ukrainian regions.

“It’s very positive that such a person as Elon Musk is trying to look for a peaceful settlement,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Tuesday. But, “as for the referendums, people have voiced their opinion and there could be nothing else”.

Ukraine and the West have said that the hastily organised votes in four occupied regions were clearly rigged to serve Putin’s purpose to try to cement his loosening grip on Ukrainian terrain.

Musk’s ideas were described by one critic as ‘moral idiocy’.
Musk’s ideas seemed to get little support on Twitter, including from Russian chess great and anti-Putin political activist Garry Kasparov, who bashed the plan.

“This is moral idiocy, repetition of Kremlin propaganda, a betrayal of Ukrainian courage and sacrifice, and puts a few minutes browsing Crimea on Wikipedia over the current horrific reality of Putin’s bloody war,” Kasparov tweeted.

In the first weeks of the invasion in early March, Musk came to Ukraine’s aid when his SpaceX company shared its Starlink satellite system that helps deliver internet access to areas that lack coverage. At the time, Zelensky thanked Musk for the equipment that he said would help maintain communications in cities under attack.

However, in April, Musk said that as a “free speech absolutist” Starlink would not block Russian state media outlets that spread propaganda and misinformation on the war in Ukraine.

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