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To: TimF who wrote (23865)	3/9/2023 8:51:49 PM
From: TimF	of 23908

"Ukraine was going to join NATO" - Well its not impossible for it to happen, but they didn't want to join before they were attacked in 2014 (and not overwhelmingly until 2022) and they had about zero prospect of joining after 2014. All Russia's invasion has done in this regard is make Ukraine a confirmed enemy of Russia and have NATO move close to Ukraine (as well as possibly get Sweden and Finland as extra NATO members). "The shelling in Donbass" - Two way violence, part of what was an ungoing low level war that Russia started. Also you had about a couple of dozen dead civilians per year from it as opposed to this from the Russian invasion. This one at least isn't utterly false, but the reality of it doesn't justify their invasion, and Russian's vast exaggerations of it are false.

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