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To: Maple MAGA who wrote (1418328)9/8/2023 10:05:38 AM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) of 1577033
 
He's still lying about climate policies.

Fact check: Climate policies more deadly than climate change? Wrong. (houstonchronicle.com)

Jeff Cercone, Amy Sherman, PolitiFact
Aug. 28, 2023Updated: Aug. 28, 2023 2:40 p.m.

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The claim: When Fox News debate moderator Martha MacCallum asked the Republican presidential primary candidates to raise their hands if they believed human behavior is causing climate change, Vivek Ramaswamy responded, “My hands are in my pockets.”

“The reality is the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy,” Ramaswamy said. “And so the reality is more people are dying of bad climate change policies than they are of actual climate change.”

PolitiFact ruling: Pants on fire. Ramaswamy didn’t explain what he was referring to, and his campaign didn’t answer our emails, but an earlier social media post seemed to refer to historical data showing a decline in weather-related deaths since the 1900s. Despite that decline, this is a fact: climate change is a worldwide killer. Better warning systems have helped reduce the death toll since the 1970s, but that comes amid extreme weather worsened by a warming planet.

Climate experts, meanwhile, told us that they know of no “climate change policies” causing deaths.

DiscussionIn early August, Ramaswamy’s campaign made a related claim on X, formerly known as Twitter, writing, “Fact: the climate disaster death rate has *declined* by 98% over the last century, even as carbon emissions have risen. The average person is 50X less likely to die of a climate-related cause than in 1920. Why? Fossil fuels. An inconvenient truth for the climate cult.”

Although historical data does show deaths from weather disasters have declined since the 1900s, experts said that’s largely attributable to better disaster warning systems. Such data does not undermine evidence that extreme weather worsened by a warming planet has taken millions of lives.

“His answer is completely wrong,” said Kevin Trenberth, a scholar at the National Center of Atmospheric Research. “I do not know of any policies that have increased risk.”

Worldwide, extreme weather disasters worsened by climate change caused more than 2 million deaths from 1970 to 2021, the World Meteorological Organization said in a May 2023 report.

The World Health Organization said “climate change is the single biggest health threat facing humanity” and that “climate change is already killing us.” WHO reported in November that at least 15,000 people died because of the heat in 2022.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said 600 people in the U.S. die from heat-related illnesses annually, which is likely an undercount.

Summer 2023 has set record temperatures in the U.S. and around the globe, with July the hottest month on record — and more than 70% of the U.S. population that month experienced at least one day with extreme temperatures. Human-caused climate change made those extremes at least three times more likely, one research group found.

“I don’t know of any climate policies that are killing people,” said Andrew Dessler, an atmospheric sciences professor and director of the Texas Center for Climate Studies at Texas A&M University. “Fossil fuels, however, kill millions of people every year from air pollution.”

Dessler pointed to 2021 research published by Harvard University in collaboration with other institutions that found more than 8 million people worldwide died in 2018 from fossil fuel pollution. In the U.S., 350,000 premature deaths were attributed to fossil fuel pollution, the researchers found.

Ramaswamy has previously dismissed concerns about the health effects of fossil fuels, such as in poor neighborhoods sited near chemical plants.

“You’re more likely to be affected by restraints on fossil fuels,” Ramaswamy said in a July podcast interview. “People are dying because of lack of access to fossil fuels.”

His post appeared to have been parroting a Jan. 1, 2023, social media post by Danish political scientist Bjorn Lomborg, president of the Copenhagen Consensus Center think tank, who has long questioned conventional wisdom on climate change. In it, Lomborg shared a graphic showing deaths from floods, droughts, storms, wildfires and extreme heat have plummeted over the last century.

Some climate scientists criticized Lomborg’s use of the data to cast doubt on the idea that people are dying from climate-related disasters.

World Meteorological Organization data does show that death tolls fell from more than 50,000 in the 1970s to less than 20,000 in the 2010s. But climate scientists attributed that to better alert systems and disaster management — not climate change policy.

“There has been a gratifying decline in death rates from weather disasters over the past 50 years or so, and this has been misconstrued as evidence against climate change by quite a few so-called skeptics, not just Vivek,” said Kerry Emanuel, a professor emeritus of atmospheric science at MIT. “This decline is very clearly attributable to rapidly improving warnings — a product of ever-improving weather forecasts — and better emergency preparation.”
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