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Technology Stocks : Year 2000 (Y2K) Embedded Systems & Infrastructure Problem

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To: John Mansfield who wrote (109)2/21/1998 6:15:00 AM
From: John Mansfield  Read Replies (2) of 618
 
INDEX-EMBEDDED - Update - Index to embedded software Y2K issues...

...that I found interesting.

General:

- PRESS CLIPPINGS / AWARENESS
- Searches
- FAA
- IEE
- UK RAILTRACK
- EMBEDDED SOFTWARE COMPANIES
- HEALTH AND SAFETY
- UTILITIES
- Automotive industry
- Supply chain
- Apron services

- CONFERENCES
- Legal
- DC Y2K Meeting on embedded systems
- Links

Technical stuff:

- TIME DILATION
- Testing
- SCADA
- TECHNICAL DISCUSSIONS ON-LINE
- Other technical discussions
- TECHNICAL LINKS
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PRESS CLIPPINGS / AWARENESS

Niall Fitzgerald of Unilever: 'Wake up to y2k, Blair'
Message 3188098

UNILEVER Costs soar - particularly because of embedded software
sunday-times.co.uk.
Message 3017082
'Anderson said the costs of tackling the bug were soaring because of the scale of the problem, particularly concerning so-called "embedded" chips'

UK unites to beat bug:': Greater focus on embedded systems'
computerweekly.co.uk
Message 3289195
'Organisations represented at the first national infrastructure meeting: Action 2000; BBC; BT; Department of Social Security; Electricity Association; Local Government Management Board; Marks & Spencer; Metropolitan Police; NHS Executive; Nuclear Electric; Post Office; Railtrack; Shell Oil; Southern Water; Transco Gas. '

The Real Year 2000 Nightmare: Manufacturing Systems
Message 3188251
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US lagging UK in awareness on Y2K in embedded software
The arguments below apply even more to Y2K/embedded software co's; as the awareness/action/budgets lag 'normal y2k. This will change the coming months, however. Just look at UK co's; such as Unilever, British Railtrack etc.
Message 3221746

Y2K-EMBEDDED interesting discussion on C.S.Y2K
Message 3167954
'This is indeed a classic problem in manufacturing plants, and is one of the main reasons why companies are (or are considering) adjusting the dates held by the embedded systems, and then compensating for this in the "next level up" supervisory (i.e. control/monitor) systems.'

Y2K-EMBEDDED '...but the big difference is the culture...'
Message 3142566

Federal Reserve: increased attention on embedded systems
bog.frb.fed.us
Message 3010039

Rumour on super-large crude carriers
Message 3017120

Y2K-EMBEDDED - C.S.Y2K "Building Death"
Message 3017888
Interesting and very detailed description of embedded systems in buildings,
and possible y2k problems in them. Thanks to Harlan Smith, Blake Allan.

The '1972 fix' is not a viable solution for the vast majority of embedded systems.
From: year2000.unt.edu
Message 2887487

UK Daily Telegraph: 'mechanical franking machines roll over from "99" to "--"'
'it's the kind of problem that requires replacement parts'
Message 3311029

'But comparatively little has been said about so-called embedded systems'
globeandmail.com

ABC NEWS: 'Don't ignore microprocessor-dependent devices used in manufacturing...'
abcnews.com
'Don't ignore microprocessor-dependent devices used in manufacturing, heating and cooling, elevator, and alarm and security operations.ÿ

'The industrial version controls chemical processes or equipment shutdowns'
From: Bouldernews
Message 3311245

'Honeywell chairman: ...one of the most worrying areas is the field of industrial process control.'
From: millennia-bcs.com

Singapore attention to y2k in ES: 'The critical process in all Y2K embedded systems investigations is management of the hardware inventory.'
asia1.com.sg

MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES
cio.fed.gov
Can someone remember if there was an obligation to report on embedded systems in previous OMB memorandums; as there is now?
Message 3329252

A good example of a contingency plan: '... early ID on non-compliant PLC controllers'
erols.com
Message 3329315

David Hall on road trucks, cars
I consider David to be a very knowledgable and serious writer about Y2K. Cheryl has written more about him in a recent post.
Message 3329462

'Looking for an industrial process interest group... '
From the famous Peter de Jager y2k site www.year2000.com:
year2000.com

Peter de Jager's site: Implementing a Site Review Program - also on embedded software
year2000.com

TECHNICAL - Non-IT y2k: 'it is always amazing how
quickly the denial disappears....'
From the SIM discussion board.
exchange2000.com

Australian conference: 'large scale industrial and process control systems which you depend on for business survival'
iqpc.com
exchange2000.com
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Searches

Just click on the link; and a relevant search will be started.

Search on Y2K entries in Manufacturing magazines:
manufacturing.net

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FAA - Federal Aviation Agency

FAA - 'Now try to debug something like that!'
Found on C.S.Y2K, thank to Jim Cobbs.
Sample of production code containing some stuff coded without assembler.
'The problem is that the date functions are not in programming languages, like Fortran or Cobol, but in machine language -- strings of ones and zeros more basic to the computer than even the operating system'
Message 3176008

The main concern is actually about the air traffic control
It seems that not only the US FAA is in big trouble; but also the UK Air traffic control (CAA it is called I think) :
Message 3311151
news.bbc.co.uk
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IEE

IEE : '"SMEs" - smaller companies which may not have the expertise to examine or modify their system'
iee.org.uk

IEE guide online!: 'The Millennium Problem in Embedded Systems'
iee.org.uk

I like this one! 'œ16,606.25 Estimated saving œ 4.0 M'
iee.org.uk
Message 3220256
'The following item is given as a cautionary tale
Planning Liaison Unit for Navel Development and General Engineering
Transcript of Defect Analysis Meeting held on: 05/01/2000'

US lagging UK in awareness on Y2K in embedded software - II
fei.org.uk
'The Federation of the Electronics Industry (FEI) is the lead UK Trade Association for companies in the Information Technology, Communications and Electronics Industries, in Defence and Civil Electronics and in Office Equipment and Furniture. '
fei.org.uk

Links that the IEE finds helpful regarding Y2K
iee.org.uk

long post; TECHNICAL but VERY INTERESTING : IEE ADDENDA to 'The Millennium Problem in Embedded Systems'
exchange2000.com
iee.org.uk
This is a very detailed and comprehensive update to the IEE guide on y2k in embedded systems.
IEE is the Institution of Electrical Engineers; based in the U
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UK RAILTRACK

UK: Rail industry bands together to beat millennium bug
railtrack.co.uk
19 November 1997
Senior rail chiefs have voted overwhelmingly to create a cross-industry body to solve potential problems caused by the millennium bug.
Message 3221037

IEE and British Railtrack training program: 'accredited by both the IEE...'
railtrack.co.uk
This gives some idea of the status of the IEE.
Message 3221163

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EMBEDDED SOFTWARE COMPANIES

Some embedded software co's - all participating in y2k discussions
control.com
Message 3283531
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HEALTH AND SAFETY

UK Health and Safety Executive (HSE)
hsebooks.co.uk
Message 3289184
HSE will issue guidance on this topic in March 1998. This guidance will be free and available from the Internet (address http:/www.open.gov.uk/hse/hsehome.htm) and as a leaflet.

Safety systems face millennium shutdown
computerweekly.co.uk
Message 3289166

Valley Health System Year 2000 Project: Impact Analysis also for embedded software
From:
year2000.com
Message 3339049

'Patient care to suffer as NHS fixes millennium bug'
computerweekly.co.uk
exchange2000.com

UK: Health and safety concerns for Y2K
pa.press.net
'Fears are strong that the year 2000 computer bug poses real threats to the health and safety of workers in thousands of companies in the UK, according to a new report from an official watchdog.
exchange2000.com

Medical Devices and Equipment Compliance
pc47.cee.hw.ac.uk
'Medical Devices and Equipment Compliance

'Chances are, you'll be at the hospital on equipment patrol.'
amhpi.com.

amhpi.com :
'About the American Society for Healthcare Materials Management
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UTILITIES

EPRI Research Questionnaire: will there be electrical power?
epri.com
Message 3010141

EPRI Electrical Power Research Institute Y2K site - long post
epriweb.com
Message 3294734

EPRI Research Questionnaire: will there be electrical power?
epri.com
Message 3010141

From Rick Cowles well known site on utilities: 'the proposed GL is much stronger than the industry anticipated'
Message 3294495
'the industry needs to understand the intense pressure that the NRC is feeling on the issue'

'...one electric company that's got the guts to publicly recognize
that Y2K's an issue for them'
Rick Cowles, 16/10/1997 on C.S.Y2K
Message 3168272

Questions to be asked to your local electric company
Message 3125740

Y2K-EMBEDDED - the local General Electric plant in Salem, Va had to shut down for an extra week'
Message 3124716

Utility Y2K project in SW of GB
Message 3017136
swebuk.com
Message 3017120

'A priority is updating computer systems that control power-plant operations'
From the Columbus Dispatch, Ohio
dispatch.com
Message 3311107

'NRC GENERIC LETTER NO. 98-XX:
YEAR 2000 READINESS OF COMPUTER SYSTEMS
AT NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS'
News on the NRC - Nuclear Regulatory Commission:
nrc.gov
Message 3314692

Utilities zero in on Year 2000 problems
stlnet.com.
'Utilities zero in on Year 2000 problem

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Automotive industry

'The undertaking by the automotive industry via AIAG is massive. With nearly 50 000 Tier-1 suppliers and 500 000 total suppliers throughout the chain...'
'....AIAG Assessment Certified and asked if he would care to comment.'
exchange2000.com

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Supply chain

' certifying the year 2000 compliance of all suppliers was "probably impossible" because of limited time '
computerweekly.co.uk
'Friday 06 February
Manufacturers face millennium meltdown
exchange2000.com

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Apron services

x4.dejanews.com.
3&hitnum=2
'I'm told Royal Dutch/Shell has just undertaken a pilot project at
Schipol airport (Amsterdam) to look at Y2K compliance in apron services
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CONFERENCES

SPG's YEAR 2000 CONFERENCE & EXPO: also on embedded software problems
Message 3283340
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LEGAL

'our approach includes analysis of risks in both IT and non-IT operations (...) and problems with devices with embedded computer chips.'
freeyellow.com
Message 3330888
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DC Y2K Meeting on embedded systems

Cory: 'cory hamasaki lumped into the denial-head category at DC Y2K.'
Some more on the DCY2K meeting of 17/2; Cory on C.S.Y2K:
exchange2000.com

DCY2K 17/2 meeting : 'this metric has been confirmed **across the utility industry**. '
exchange2000.com

Some thoughts on previous post on DCY2K 2/17 meeting
VERY INTERESTING: DCY2K 2/17 meeting on embeddeds - Cory Hamasaki
exchange2000.com

VERY INTERESTING: DCY2K 2/17 meeting on embeddeds - Cory Hamasaki
x4.dejanews.com

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LINKS

manufacturing.net: magazines on manufacturing; lots of links relevant for manufacturing
Message 3302176

LINKS to y2k embedded software - from G. Girod's site
From:
pw1.netcom.com

The Cassandra Project: good overview of y2k embedded problems
millennia-bcs.com

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AFTER THIS LINE : TECHNICAL STUFF - only trespass when having technical background ;-)

TIME DILATION

Mike Echlin: 'History of "Time Dilation", or what the hell is this.'
Mike Echlin's site! :
intranet.ca

BEST OF C.S.Y2K: Time Dilation update by Jace Crouch
Message 2927104

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TESTING

Reprint of Roleigh Martin's article on embedded software testing
ourworld.compuserve.com
Focusses on testing, utilities, urgency to act now; mentions a recent conference helt by the EPRI for the utilities.

Y2K-TESTING - Excellent document on testing embedded systems
aieg.org
Message 2960653

Y2K testing at Schneider Automation
modicon.com go to 'year 2000'
Message 3283692

IEE guide: 5.4.3 Identifying embedded systems with potential time-related problems '
iee.org.uk
Message 3220305

Y2K-TESTING - Excellent document on testing embedded systems
aieg.org
Message 2960653
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SCADA

SCADA - Everything you wanted to know about SCADA, but were afraid to ask ;-)
Message 2950999

UK SCADA firm
I like this statement of a UK SCADA firm:
'...has set up a specialist division that offers a full vulnerability analysis'.
From:
boward.com

'SCADA Sources on the WWW':
iinet.net.au
Try this!! ===>>>> 'SCADA Year 2000 sites' <<<====
You will find a lot of links to co's with statements about y2k in embedded systems:
Message 3231437

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TECHNICAL DISCUSSIONS ON-LINE

Several ES engineers are discussion actual problems
Just found another site from an Australian engineering company where several ES engineers are discussion actual problems; a clear need for the planty2kone product can be seen there:
control.com
Message 3283251

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Other technical discussions:

Frequently asked Embeddeds Q/A
'Q:
'If there is no way you could enter a date...'
Then can we be sure it does not have an year 2000 problem?'
exchange2000.com

TECHNICAL - Embedded systems: time comparisons in PLC
This is a technical question on time comparison's in PLC's, found in a y2k discussion list.
exchange2000.com
TECHNICAL LINKS

Everything you wanted to know about processors
Message 3177234

These are all links to sites containing information or references about embedded software etc; not about specific y2k problems in ES (except 1 link).
Message 3338740
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