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From: Jim Mullens11/2/2025 1:27:38 PM
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AAPLs Earnings - Cramer / Pundits v Copilot Q&A – ................................................................

Q16- what is Cramers and several others on AAPLs latest earnings report. Summarize key statements and QUOTES, and list articles and links, Be sure to include Fudzella.

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Jim Cramer and other analysts largely praised Apple’s Q4 FY25 earnings, calling it a turning point — though Fudzilla offered a more skeptical take, highlighting iPhone weakness and AI lag.

Analyst & Media Reactions to Apple Q4 FY25 Earnings

Jim Cramer (CNBC)
  • Quote: “Apple bears owe us an explanation.”
  • Cramer applauded Apple’s performance and dismissed skeptics after the company beat revenue and EPS expectations. He emphasized that Apple’s execution and guidance proved doubters wrong Benzinga.
Dan Ives (Wedbush Securities)
  • Quote: “It’s a pound-the-table moment.”
  • Ives called the quarter a major inflection point, citing Apple’s entry into AI and strong iPhone 17 demand. He estimated Apple’s AI strategy could add $75–$100 per share in value Benzinga.
Fudzilla (Skeptical Take)
  • Quote: “The iPhone cash cow is looking a bit sad.”
  • Fudzilla critiqued Apple’s reliance on services and subscription revenue, noting that iPhone revenue missed forecasts and China sales fell 4%. It also mocked Apple’s AI rollout as “half-baked” and lagging behind Microsoft and Google Shacknews.
ShackNews
  • Noted that Apple beat Wall Street’s revenue and EPS estimates but missed the “whisper number” of $1.86 EPS (actual: $1.85). Still, the market reacted positively in after-hours trading Shacknews.
MacRumors
  • Highlighted Apple’s record Q4 revenue of $102.5B and $27.5B in profit, with strong iPhone and Services performance. Gross margin rose to 47.2%, up from 46.2% YoY MacRumors.
Apple Earnings Call (via Yahoo Finance)
  • Tim Cook said iPhone 17 demand was “off the charts” and store traffic was “significantly up.” CFO Kevin Parekh forecasted 10–12% revenue growth in Q1 FY26, driven by iPhone and Services Yahoo Finance.
Key Articles & Sources
  1. Cramer & Dan Ives React to Apple Q4 – Benzinga
  2. Apple Q4 Results – MacRumors
  3. Apple Q4 FY25 Earnings Call Transcript – Yahoo Finance
  4. Apple Misses Whisper EPS – ShackNews
  5. Fudzilla Commentary – Silicon Investor
Q17- to Copilot
looking at the financial numbers / metrics we pulled together. What’s your reaction to AAPLs performance this FY and over the past 3 years. And the justification for it high valuation / PE (normalized > 39%) given-

Don’t rationalize / straight objective answer >>>

1) its paltry net income and normalized (share count adjusted) EPS 3 year CAGR was about 4%

2) its share price growth > 95% as its normalized PE expanded by over 60%

Apple Valuation Metrics – Absolute & Percent Growth from FY22 to FY25

Metric

FY 2022

FY 2025

Absolute Growth

Percent Growth

Share Price (EOY)

$138.20

$270.37

+$132.17

+95.6%

PE Ratio (Trailing)

22.5×

36.1×

+13.6×

+60.4%

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A- Here’s the straight, objective read:

  • Apple’s financial performance over the past 3 years has been fundamentally weak.
    • Net income CAGR: +4.0%
    • Normalized EPS CAGR: +3.9%
    • Revenue CAGR: +1.8%
      These are low-growth metrics for a company of Apple’s scale, especially given its mature market position and lack of meaningful expansion in unit volumes or ASPs.
  • Valuation expansion is entirely multiple-driven.
    • Share price rose +95.6%
    • Normalized PE expanded +60.4%
    • EPS growth was negligible
      This means investors are paying significantly more for each dollar of earnings, despite earnings barely growing.
  • There is no financial justification for a trailing PE > 39× on a 4% EPS CAGR.
    • The valuation is disconnected from fundamentals.
    • It reflects sentiment, scarcity premium, passive flows, and possibly AI halo effects — not earnings power.
  • Conclusion:
    Apple’s valuation is being sustained by external factors, not internal performance. The fundamentals do not support the current price or multiple.
  • This is a multiple expansion story with no earnings growth to back it.

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The market is pricing Apple like a high-growth tech disruptor, while its actual financials resemble a mature consumer hardware firm with modest service tailwinds. That disconnect is the story.
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