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Strategies & Market Trends : Technical analysis for shorts & longs
SPY 681.43+1.6%Nov 10 4:00 PM EST

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To: E_K_S who wrote (67486)11/2/2025 2:22:47 PM
From: Johnny Canuck   of 67816
 
Keep in that twitter post is based on performance not on valuation. Anything AI relate is above valuation level based on traditional metric.

For example AAPL at $269 and DCF at $206.

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Chain of Thought for DCF Valuation of Apple Inc. (AAPL) To determine the Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) intrinsic value per share for Apple Inc. (AAPL), we apply a two-stage DCF model. This projects free cash flows (FCF) over a 5-year high-growth period, computes a terminal value assuming perpetual growth thereafter, discounts all to present value using the weighted average cost of capital (WACC), and divides by diluted shares outstanding to arrive at the per-share equity value. Apple holds massive net cash (~$60B as of Q4 FY2025), with negligible debt, so enterprise value approximates equity value.

Step 1: Gather Key Inputs Using data as of November 2, 2025 (post-Q4 FY2025 earnings on October 31):

  • Trailing Twelve Months (TTM) FCF: $110.5 billion USD. Aggregated from Q4 FY2025 FCF of $28.2B, reflecting services growth (22% YoY) offsetting hardware softness.
  • High-Growth Rate (Years 1-5): 10% annually. Consensus from analysts (e.g., Finbox: 9.8% unlevered FCF CAGR through 2030), driven by iPhone/services ecosystem, AI features in iOS 19, but capped by China exposure and mature market saturation.
  • Terminal Growth Rate: 3%. Standard for a cash-rich tech behemoth, aligning with inflation/GDP.
  • Discount Rate (WACC): 8%. Averaged from estimates (GuruFocus: 8.1%, ValueInvesting.io: 8.3%), with beta ~1.2, risk-free rate ~4%, and ERP ~5%.
  • Shares Outstanding: 15.22 billion (diluted, Q4 FY2025, after buybacks).
All in USD; verified via financial API for recency.

Step 2: Project Future Free Cash Flows Base FCF0 = $110.5B. Grow at 10% for 5 years:

  • Year 1: $110.5B × 1.10 = $121.55B
  • Year 2: $121.55B × 1.10 = $133.71B
  • Year 3: $133.71B × 1.10 = $147.08B
  • Year 4: $147.08B × 1.10 = $161.79B
  • Year 5: $161.79B × 1.10 = $177.97B
Step 3: Calculate Terminal Value End of Year 5: FCF6 = $177.97B × 1.03 = $183.31B. TV = $183.31B / (0.08 - 0.03) = $183.31B / 0.05 = $3,666.12B.

Step 4: Discount to Present Value Discount at WACC = 8%:

  • PV(Year 1 FCF) = $121.55B / 1.08¹ ˜ $112.55B
  • PV(Year 2 FCF) = $133.71B / 1.08² ˜ $114.65B
  • PV(Year 3 FCF) = $147.08B / 1.08³ ˜ $116.89B
  • PV(Year 4 FCF) = $161.79B / 1.084 ˜ $119.24B
  • PV(Year 5 FCF) = $177.97B / 1.085 ˜ $121.68B
  • Sum of PV(FCFs) = $584.99B
  • PV(TV) = $3,666.12B / 1.085 ˜ $2,496.07B
Enterprise Value (EV) = $584.99B + $2,496.07B = $3,081.06B.

Step 5: Derive Per-Share Value Intrinsic Value per Share = EV / Shares = $3,081.06B / 15.22B = $202.44.

Step 6: Interpretation and Sensitivity
  • Current stock price (Nov 1 close): $226.80. Implies ~11% overvaluation, post-earnings: Q4 revenue $94.9B (+6% YoY), EPS $1.64 beat, but iPhone sales flat; AI/Vision Pro hype supports premium. Comparable DCFs: AlphaSpread ~$195 (overvalued), Simply Wall St ~$220 (fair).
  • Sensitivity: If growth = 12%, value ~$235; if 8%, ~$175. If WACC = 7.5%, value ~$215; if 8.5%, ~$190. FCF bolstered by $110B+ annual buybacks, but watch China tariffs/AI capex (~$10B FY2026).
This model is directional; adjust for scenarios in a spreadsheet. DCF affirms Apple's fortress balance sheet and ecosystem moat.
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