shane, Dell'Oro has reported that the router market was $5.2B in 1997. CSCO had $3.234B of it. Still, the CSCO 12000 (GSR - Gigabit Switch Router) family is at the highest end so it captures a small percentage. I don't really understand the size of the CSCO 12000 market. The GSR appears to be significant, at least from a name standpoint. Look at these customer sign-ups: o Sprint: cisco.com o GTE: cisco.com o UUNET: cisco.com o And finally, the one you'll use: cisco.com I think CSCO at one point (in IBD) hinted that it was a significant product but not nec. a huge revenue earner. Is that true? Looks to me like the $10-30,000 price range zdnet.com Do you have any idea how much these gizmos cost? Are these routers/switches/whatever(!!!!) in the $100,000 area, the $50,000 area, or the $10,000 area. Guess: $50k area. Suspect distribution will not be plentiful but will last for many years. I would think that as the price comes down, many of the routers in that $5.2B market will get converted over. And how many will be shipping? I must admit that when CSCO announced the 12008: cisco.com and I remembered the LSI announcement: cisco.com I probably got overly excited. Just the thought of 7 ASICs in every router (I knew CSCO had a lock on that market) set my head swimming. What I didn't realize was that the product to be shipped this month is the 12008 and that the family started shipping last fall. I must say that the affect on LSI has not been too dramatic thus far! I think what was significant for CSCO was that this is a next generation product. Might mean more work for LSI down the road or ongoing even. If you like to read technical material, the 12000 is here: Family: cisco.com Applications: cisco.com Product Overview (below the TOC): Introducing a New Cisco Product: Cisco 12000 Series Gigabit Switch Router. The Cisco 12000 series is the newest addition to the company's next generation of Internet routing products and is the premier platform for o Internet service providers o Internet 2 (I2) o Gigabit enterprise wide-area network (WAN) backbones o Gigabit metropolitan-area network (MAN) backbones cisco.com o~~~ O |