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Pastimes : JESUS and FINANCIAL FREEDOM

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To: gregor who wrote (646)3/10/1998 10:40:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker  Read Replies (1) of 1283
 
I see something in your answer I can't put in words, but immediately I thought of the perfect example of what you say, and that again could be part of the circle. Again, I speak in riddles because it is beyond my ability to put in words, and after all is nothing more than human thought no matter how right it seems./

I was in a working relationship with a groups very liberal (Marxist), very everything that goes against the grain, and I must say that for five years I never loved people more. And truly they loved me then and still do now, as I continue to run into them along life's merry path. One was the executive director, I was his personal secretary. I knew I was in trouble when I walked into his office and he glared at me and said, "That smile of yours--I don't like Christians. They make me nervous."

Five years later he was going to church with his wife.

Anyway, we were at an empasse, and he brought up Jesus during our many intellectural debates, daily, weekly, it went on and on (he is now in Davis, CA, and high up somewhere doing something very interesting.) He began to honestly tear into Jesus stating that he couldn't accept such a ( I don't know how to repeat the conversation and I won't. It doesn't seem right.) lets say, "nice guy" as Jesus. In fact turning his cheek to scum, etc., kind of made him sick, he said.

And here is the point. I can't repeat the conversation, because it was very "unspiritual" and would offend people that I was not more
"pious". Basically I made a jive type remark that Jesus was very, very forgiving and loving but something to the effect that the FATHER of Jesus Christ wasn't quite that nice--and related the times he had called down fire on people. The fact is that happened, and recorded, so i don't mind passing it on, nor does it particularly bother me. Wish He would do more of that sometimes myself.

What was interesting was the effect. David looked at me with great wonder, got a big smile on his face and said, "Now, that's something I can relate to! The Heavenly Father is more like my kind of guy!"

Whatever happened after that doesn't matter, but I do know that from that moment on David L. had a complete open heart to God and my last phone call with him several years later was that he had changed almost completely, and was not a flaming Christian, but far, far from a communist athiest.

And over the course of time that very, very hardened Marxist tough man became a person you just love very much.

That is why I don't like to mess with something that is perfect, Gregor, and if we lose any of it, it just doesn't seem to work as planned.

Do I make any sense here? Gregor, I dearly love God the Father, as revealed to the Jews, and the One who sits on the Throne. I just love Jesus in a different way. They just are different, and that's why Jesus made it clear they were. Jesus can be received by the human heart, the Father on the Throne is simply beyond even getting a clue as to what it is all about. About all we can even begin to picture is what'--we can't. That's the bottom line. Jesus, I can almost see His face, as can you, I'm sure. He is just alive.

Why must we change it? Am I wrong? I certainly could be and often am wrong, but I don't really see anything different from how I see it in the Word either.

This is a very difficult concept.
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