That wasn't the next thing I did. The next thing I did was accept your apology, and then trade bantering, good-hearted private msgs with you. The last thing you did was say, "I always knew you were an ash-hole", with no <vbg> or <g> or -g- or -G- after it. What was I supposed to think?
What's Mt St Helens have to do with anything? Seems a tenuous link to a half-baked insult. For that matter, you live pretty close to St. Helens yourself.
The major problem of this whole discussion is that it took giant leaps of logic with absolutely no "discussion" whatsoever. We went directly from object of the discussion, which was cruel parenting decisions, to whether or not Christ was a homosexual.
Was I the only one that found that a little disturbing? The so-called "discussion" seemed hell-bent on reaching the conclusion first, then going back and attempting to fill in the missing links.
First off, it would seem prudent to at least get a second opinion from the results of "60 minutes" TV show. It was this sort of sensational "journalism" that admitted to attaching flaming rockets to GM pickups to "prove" that they blew up when hit from the side.
So to back up quite a lot, it would make sense to me to first consider:
First, I don't think anyone, no matter what their religion or non-religious status, would condone parents kicking their own child out onto the street for being gay. Common sense would dictate that a loving parent simply wouldn't do that. The parental instinct is, after all, to love their children and be very forgiving towards them, no matter how problematic their child is in whatever area.
A lot of us here are in our 30s and 40s, some maybe in their 20s, some possibly in their 50s or more. Has anyone here ever in their life personally heard of an instance where some parents kicked their teen-aged child out onto the street because the teen admitted to being gay? And if anyone has heard of an instance, where the parents "conservative Christians", and if so, what denomination? A "conservative Christian" attends church, so it would be known, if someone heard of an instance of this, which church denomination this has happened in.
If we can't come up with any real-life examples, then there is more investigative work to be done. I don't think people are ready to make conservative Christians accept the blame for adulterers and thieves comitting suicide, yet adultery and stealing is viewed as wrong by conservative Christians also. Not only them, but by virtually everyone, including some liberal radio psychologists. I just think there are huge leaps of logic in the belief that anytime someone feels bad and commits suicide, that it's the blame of whoever views what they did as in some way wrong.
I personally have never heard of an instance of any parent kicking their child out the house for homosexuality, so I'm not sure what I could do even if it was somehow "established" that I was at fault for someone committing suicide. I guess if nothing else I could feel badly about it, and committ suicide myself. Then at least "60 minutes" would have another show they could do.
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