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To: David A. Lethe who wrote (4368)10/30/1996 8:27:00 PM
From: Joe Antol   of 42771
 
David, here's one of your Microsoft "turds" talking about an NC..

dq, Thanh, here's an example of MSFT integrity and what these jerks look up to:

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HERE IS AN EXCERPTED THREAD FROM A COMPUSERVE FORUM. NOTE
THAT "ALEC SAUNDERS-MS" IS A MICROSOFT EXECUTIVE. "HE" IS
THE ONE RESPONDING TO THE QUESTIONS PUT FORTH BY THE PEOPLE
ON THAT FORUM. "HE" IS THE ONE THAT IS SMUGLY INDICATING
THAT IT IS THE "PRESS" NOT POOR OLD MICROSOFT THAT IS
MISINTERPRETING THIER ANNOUNCEMENT.

YOU TRADE PRESS PEOPLE AND NOW THE CONVENTIONAL PRESS (CNN,
FOR EXAMPLE) ARE SO GULLIBLE THAT MICROSOFT IS LAUGHING
THIER A**ES OFF AT YOU EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY AS THEY
SNOWJOB "EVERYONE".

DISGUSTED! WHAT A TRAVESTY! AND YOU WONDER WHY YOU PRESS
PEOPLE GET THE MAIL YOU DO, AND WHY EVERYONE THAT "KNOWS"
ANYTHING BASHES MICROSOFT. YOU ARE ALL "FOOLS"!

NOTE THAT SAUNDERS "FREE" ACCOUNT IS 74224,765

=================COMPUSERVE EXCERPT=========================

----- CANOPUSA COMPUSRV appended at 06:06:16 on 96/10/29 GMT
(by 752914 at CANOPUSA) Subject: Microsoft NC Farce? From:
"Randall C. Kennedy" <75601.256@CompuServe.com> To: *ALL

To the forum faithful:

Is is just me, or has Microsoft essentially pulled off a
major marketing coup by getting the industry press to report
its new "NetPC" initiative as a move into the Network
Computer market?

After all, if you look at the specs you'll find that this
new "NetPC" is really nothing more than a repackaged Pentium
box running Windows. All of their systems management "magic"
will come from future versions of Windows 95/NT, and in fact
the boxes themselves must sport Plug & Play hardware that
can be supported by Windows or Windows NT device drivers.

I'm surprised more people aren't picking up on this latest
truckload of bull from the "Wintel" camp...

RCK
----- CANOPUSA COMPUSRV appended at 19:13:23 on 96/10/29 GMT
(by 753044 at CANOPUSA) Subject: Microsoft NC Farce? Ref:
Append at 06:06:16 on 96/10/29 GMT (by 752914 at CANOPUSA)
From: "Lawrence D. Lean" <75521.264@CompuServe.com> To:
Randall C. Kennedy 75601,256

Randall,

> latest truckload of bull from the "Wintel" camp...

Got a shovel full again. Nice *Intel* only spec when I saw
the details. I guess the savings will be from omitting the
screws on the boxes cover but putting the screws elsewhere
....

Lawrence
----- CANOPUSA COMPUSRV appended at 02:13:34 on 96/10/30 GMT
(by 753154 at CANOPUSA) Subject: Microsoft NC Farce? Ref:
Append at 06:06:16 on 96/10/29 GMT (by 752914 at CANOPUSA)
From: "Alec Saunders [MS]" <74224.765@CompuServe.com> To:
Randall C. Kennedy 75601,256 (X)

That's an interesting viewpoint, Randy, but I don't think
anyone here considers it a marketing coup that the press has
confused the NetPC with an NC. We've invested a lot of time
and energy in addressing the manageability issues which
folks have with Windows PC's. If we had wanted to endorse
the NC, we could have done that months ago.

Alec.

----- CANOPUSA COMPUSRV appended at 03:39:01 on 96/10/30 GMT
(by 753184 at CANOPUSA) Subject: Microsoft NC Farce? Ref:
Append at 02:13:34 on 96/10/30 GMT (by 753154 at CANOPUSA)
From: "Randall C. Kennedy" <75601.256@CompuServe.com> To:
Alec Saunders [MS] 74224,765 (X)

Message text written by Alec Saunders [MS] >That's an
interesting viewpoint, Randy, but I don't think anyone here
considers it a marketing coup that the press has confused
the NetPC with an NC. We've invested a lot of time and
energy in addressing the manageability issues which folks
have with Windows PC's. If we had wanted to endorse the NC,
we could have done that months ago.<

Alec,

Have you seen the headline on the CNN web site? Clearly
they're taking your announcement to mean that "Microsoft is
entering the NC market."

Meanwhile your marketing team has conveniently downplayed
the whole "Wintel" aspect of the NetPC. In a nutshell,
you're doing your darndest to make the product look like an
NC without formally committing to the NC concept. You reap
the rewards (press coverage and a "foot in the NC market"
should it ever take off) without actually doing anything new
or innovative.

Tell me, Alec, other than price (which still remains TBD)
how will the NetPC differ from a Pentium box running the
next generation of Windows? I'll tell you: it won't. So if
the NetPC is really just a repackaging of the "Wintel"
platform, then why aren't you portraying it as such?

Bravo, Microsoft. Very clever. Very deceptive. Why am I
not surprised?

RCK

----- CANOPUSA COMPUSRV appended at 03:42:03 on 96/10/30 GMT
(by 753185 at CANOPUSA) Subject: Microsoft NC Farce? Ref:
Append at 19:13:23 on 96/10/29 GMT (by 753044 at CANOPUSA)
From: "Randall C. Kennedy" <75601.256@CompuServe.com> To:
Lawrence D. Lean 75521,264 (X)

Message text written by Lawrence D. Lean >Got a shovel full
again. Nice *Intel* only spec when I saw the details. I
guess the savings will be from omitting the screws on the
boxes cover but putting the screws elsewhere .... <

Larry,

That's what puzzles me. If they are indeed just
repackaging the "Wintel" spec, then why not say so?

The truth (I believe) is that Microsoft is scared to death
of missing yet another important Internet trend, and that
they're doing their very best to *look* like they're
NC-aware just in case the whole NC phenomena actually takes
off. Unfortunately, many of the less well-informed press
outlets (CNN, for example) are gobbling this horsepucky up
and proclaiming Microsoft's imminent arrival at the top of
the NC heap....

...Pathetic.

RCK

----- CANOPUSA COMPUSRV appended at 05:15:49 on 96/10/30 GMT
(by 753190 at CANOPUSA) Subject: Microsoft NC Farce? Ref:
Append at 02:13:34 on 96/10/30 GMT (by 753154 at CANOPUSA)
From: "Michel Bouckaert" <70431.1414@CompuServe.com> To:
Alec Saunders [MS] 74224,765 (X)

> That's an interesting viewpoint, Randy, but I don't
think anyone > here considers it a marketing coup that the
press has confused the > NetPC with an NC. We've invested
a lot of time and energy in > addressing the manageability
issues which folks have with Windows > PC's. If we had
wanted to endorse the NC, we could have done that > months
ago.

Mu nominee for the Spin-Of-The-Year Award. Excellent!
Bill, give this guy a few more shares.

Cheers,

Michel (29-Oct-96 at 21:13)

----- CANOPUSA COMPUSRV appended at 06:07:10 on 96/10/30 GMT
(by 753191 at CANOPUSA) Subject: Microsoft NC Farce? Ref:
Append at 03:39:01 on 96/10/30 GMT (by 753184 at CANOPUSA)
From: "Alec Saunders [MS]" <74224.765@CompuServe.com> To:
Randall C. Kennedy 75601,256 (X)

Randy --

You know as well as I do that we don't control the press.
Heck, we've pitched enough stuff your way, and you haven't
written what we were hoping<g>, so why should CNN be any
different? Fact is, NC's have a lot of mindshare right now,
and despite our best efforts, the NetPC is being seen as an
NC. Anybody who takes the time to read the press release is
going come to the same conclusion as you.

Is the NetPC based on an Intel platform? You betcha. In
fact, it was a joint Intel/Microsoft announcement, and we
had Pat Gelsinger from Intel standing on stage with Paul
Maritz, and the spec says you have to put a Pentium
processor in the device! We don't believe that switching
architectures at this juncture will help customers. They're
asking for a more maintainable PC, and that's what we're
proposing to deliver.

Alec.
----- CANOPUSA COMPUSRV appended at 06:07:56 on 96/10/30 GMT
(by 753192 at CANOPUSA) Subject: Microsoft NC Farce? Ref:
Append at 03:42:03 on 96/10/30 GMT (by 753185 at CANOPUSA)
From: "Alec Saunders [MS]" <74224.765@CompuServe.com> To:
Randall C. Kennedy 75601,256 (X)

>That's what puzzles me. If they are indeed just
repackaging the "Wintel" spec, then why not say so?<

As I pointed out to you in my last message, we did say so.
Over and over and over again.

Alec.

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Joe...<what a sh*tbird this clown is David..tsk, tsk...>
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