Colin, how the heck can I pick a decent fight if you keep agreeing with me? <GG>
Maybe it's just my nature, but I read an entirely different set of ideas in your last couple of posts than your earlier ones.
My idea of a flat tax implementation is exactly that; no exceptions. (I DON'T mean that the cost of producing income should be taxed.)
You imply -- heck you outright state -- that that is not what flat tax advocates are after. I don't doubt that there are lots of agendas going under that name, though I have no direct evidence of that either. But, correct me if I've misread you again, you seem to be imputing that to ALL flat tax ideas. I could quote several statements that sound this way to me, such as this from your lasted post:
All the talk is to raise MONEY for those touting the Flat Tax. Many people will actually vote for those politicians because they praise the flat tax / NST.
Many others will actually send their money as contributions to various Flat Tax organization on the Internet. The more $$$ they send, the more $$$ the "officers" will have to spend on salaries and perks!
Not to deny this as an issue, it is. But it's not the WHOLE issue, nor does it automatically make everyone favoring a flat tax a member of the "officers" club. Sorry if you didn't mean that; it's the way what you've posted reads to me.
Fundamentally, I and (I believe) many if not most flat-tax advocates see it as an easily grasped concept which if ACTUALLY implemented would end the governments' social engineering and tinkering (in tax policy, anyhow), simply because there's no wiggle room. It's plain when the tinker toys come out. In addition, it would relieve the high cost the tax code imposes in itself.
It's not a panacea; the tax code is certainly not ONLY problem; government can still do lots of harm and no doubt will. But if the tax code isn't the only government tool that's misused, it's one DAMN big stick.
"Tax related work" about 45%.
Of that 45% tax work the LION'S SHARE would be CORPORATE WORK, and that of HIGH NET-WORTH INDIVIDUALS. It is my GUESS that the 1040 work that would "fit on a postcard" might be 2% of the CPA's profession.
So what do the CPA firms DO 43% of the time in tax work for corporations and high net worth individuals? Why would not the bulk of that go away if a genuine, no-kidding flat tax were implemented? This is a genuine question. I'm not asking for a detailed list but rather a characterization of the activity. I have no idea what it might consist of if it's not to take maximum advantage of/minimize harm from, the hyper-complex tax code. I'm assuming that real cost accounting (determining the bottom line from the top line accurately) is part of the other 55%, yes?
IT IS A LONG WAY OFF IF EVER THAT WE WILL SEE ANY ELIMINATION OF TAXES AS YOU'VE DESCRIBED AND A LOT CAN HAPPEN TO THE CPA PROFESSION BY THEN.
That's the gist of it, though. Like the coach-fitters, you find useful work if your once-useful livelihood goes bye-bye. I'm a hell of an assembler-language programmer. It doesn't sound like either one of us have any illusions about how likely it is, either.
As to my earlier statement about "fixed pie argument", I simply meant that your statement to the effect that "somebody has to pay the taxes you don't" assumes that my proprtion of income paid in taxes gets smaller, (and tax revenue is fixed) then someone else's proportion has to rise. No, if the economy expands (which lower and fairer taxes have done historically, and it DID happen under Reagan), we can BOTH pay a smaller proportion while the greedy government gets as big a rake (in constant dollars). Takes a while. In fact, IMO Clinton is enjoying the rake from Reagan's programs right now (while, of course, taking credit while he tries his darndest to dismantle it).
It seems to me that we are actually standing pretty close together while shouting off in oblique directions (talking at cross-purposes I mean). Most of the time, anyhow.
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