LANTimes article. Q&A with UUNet, PSINet and GTE CEOs (Part II)
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LT: I've seen estimates that Internet traffic may increase tenfold in the next year. How will ISPs keep up?
Sidgmore: We've got to build more facilities, lay more fiber infrastructure, and deploy more switches and routers. We're going to continue to build out that superstructure, and the way to build that out is to pour more capital into it. [And] QoS is going to be more important to large corporations as they put more important applications on the Internet. Over the last few years, Internet growth has been from adding new subscribers and doing fairly simple applications. We haven't seen the big explosion that I think is still to come from putting the basic corporate applications [on the Internet]. Those are just starting to migrate to the Internet. As that happens, I think you're going to see more and more QoS guarantees and other applications and products from ISPs to address all of the concerns.
Gudonis: We are building a new Global Network Infrastructure (GNI) starting in the United States with a high-speed fiber network. We are building this new 15,000-mile backbone network in the United States. We are building a lot of backbone capacity to stay ahead of the capacity crunch. We acquired dark fiber from Qwest [Communications Corp.], we bought Nortel [Northern Telecommunications Inc.] optical electronics, and we are deploying a network that starts out at OC-192 (2.5Gbps). That gives us plenty of capacity. Then, with dense wave division multiplexing, we are going to add even more capacity.
We are also deploying more Web hosting operation centers around the world, distributing hosting centers close to customer concentrations. If you [as a corporate Web hosting customer] are doing 7x24 global commerce, you may have customers in Asia and customers in Europe. Rather than having to deal with traffic bottlenecks [on overseas Internet connections], we will deploy mirrored sites for you in data centers in Europe and Asia. So you have a very short path for your customers to get to your information and you are going to get higher performance.
Schrader: We buy fiber and instead of adding T-3s [45Mbps connections], we add OC-48s [622Mbps connections]. That's a fiftyfold increase, and because of the efficiencies of the packets, we get a lot more than fifty times [the bandwidth]. ISPs could probably get two hundred times more delivery effectiveness by building gigaPOPs, massive points of presence with large numbers of modems and large numbers of interconnection equipment.
What you want to think about here is each two or three years, you see a new innovation that goes on the Internet. PSINet is blending the computer expertise and the telephony expertise into one business. So, every two to three years, you will see a major enhancement in the routing capability and switching capability, or the use of fiber. Each time you will see this leapfrog effect of one time, three times, ten times, a hundred times. Then everything else has to balance and improve and you get this instability and then it becomes more stable. Then it gets totally stable and you get this new enhancement and it gets unstable again. That's part of life and that's what the Internet is about. That's why the telephony industry cannot deal with this directly. It must become an ISP. Have the kind of expertise that PSINet has. Have the kind of facilities that we have. Well they already have it--they're telephone companies. What we're doing is adding telephone facilities to the computer expertise.
LT: What are the trade-offs of being independently operated as opposed to telco-owned?
Sidgmore: The primary pro [of being an ISP owned by a telco] is that we've got access to the fiber infrastructure and that means a lot. It lets us control [network and service] quality. For example, if you have ownership of the circuitry all the way through, from local access through the Internet and out to other cities, you can control the quality better if you own all of those facilities. You can also package these services together in more clever ways to create more innovative products because you can manipulate the facilities some. The other advantage, of course, is that most telephone companies have more money than most ISPs, and money is important to scaling the network.
The downside isn't so much the telephone company; it's being part of a large company. There is the risk of losing your entrepreneurial spirit. That's something we worry about a lot. But we would argue that WorldCom is the world's largest small company. WorldCom wasn't even around ten years ago, so it's really a new company. We think we have a good shot at remaining agile and entrepreneurial because of that.
If you're independent, you're not going to have the same kind of access to capital. That isn't so bad when you're a small ISP-- when you're [worth] ten, fifteen, or twenty billion dollars. You can always get enough capital to get to the next generation by doing another secondary offering or raising venture capital. But when larger independent ISPs need to scale their network, you're talking about major amounts of capital. The advantage is you don't get distracted by other businesses, other markets, or regulatory issues or things like that. You're instead, very focused on a singular item. I'm sure that's what Schrader would say. That's what he tells me every time I talk to him.
Schrader: The pro of being independent is that we control our destiny. Being independent means that we have freedom of action. We can go after any market that makes profit for our shareholders. There's nobody who says, "Schrader, you've got to stop selling because you're cannibalizing your parent's revenue." What if we were owned by AT&T and, after working hard for two years, their revenues drop by 30 percent because we did a good job [selling IP telephony services] and their fax business is gone because we put it on the Internet at one one-hundredth the price?
What is the con [of being independent]? Living with the analysts who wonder, randomly it seems, why we don't sell the company. There's no reason to sell the company. I think we're going to be wildly profitable in the future. Why should we? There's no reason to. That's the con.
Gudonis: [When BBN was independent] we had more management flexibility because we were a smaller company. We had less coordination with other operating units because we had no other operating units to deal with. But we also had a lack of network facilities, insufficient distribution, and a smaller R&D budget. [At that time] some of our customers expressed concern about our staying power and did not trust more critical, ever larger global IP networking services to us. They bought a T-1 [1.5Mbps circuit] from us but also wanted a global virtual private network and managed content distribution. They were concerned whether we could step up to that. Now that we are owned by GTE, they trust that we will be there in the future.
In getting married to a telco, we sought three things: network, distribution, and capital. GTE has provided all that and more. On the same day that GTE announced the acquisition of BBN, they also announced a billion dollar investment in a new national fiber network. As to distribution, we got the brand-equity of GTE as a much larger brand name than BBN had. GTE brought a lot of voice-telephony skill to mix with our IP and data skill, so now we are unleashing a new set of IP and PSTN [public switched telephone network] services--like IP fax, IP telephony, unified messaging services--that we could not have done if we were independent.
LT: How will businesses first start using IP telephony services?
Sidgmore: There are a lot of application-based services that IP telephony will bring to the market. For example, you're on somebody's Web site looking at product information and now you want to talk to a product representative. It would be very convenient if you could just hit a button and talk to them, even if the quality was slightly less [than what you would get on the PSTN]. Another example: Fax traffic is a huge percentage of what is currently counted as voice traffic. It comprises something like 50 percent of all international traffic. Fax [over the Internet] is very easy to do. There are lots of applications like that, such as voice mail and messaging and so forth.
Internet voice has become much better, and I think it will be good enough for a number of applications. But the reality is that circuit-switched networks are better equipped today to handle perfect quality interactive voice. If that's what you want, that will probably be that way for some period of time.
Schrader: There won't be a single traditional telephone company around in ten years. They will all look like ISPs. Eighty percent of all telephone calls in five years will be made over IP and the LAN manager is going to be responsible for delivery of telephone services. The LAN and telephony infrastructure teams are going to merge. The legacy fax and voice and VPN environments are going to be on the Internet. They're going to be on extranets. They're going to be on VPNs that are all IP.
Gudonis: What you will see is reduction in long-distance calling costs. But it should be fairly invisible to corporate customers because they will buy service from us, and if we deliver it across our Internet backbone as IP telephony, that will be invisible to corporate customers. You won't have the VocalTec [Corp.] method of booting up a PC to have an online phone call. We are going to add additional enhanced services such as unified messaging, which is E-mail, voice mail, and a fax mail box all in one--resident in the network. You don't have that sort of thing today, but with IP telephony you will be able to do it.
LT: What hurdles still need to be overcome to make IP telephony appealing to the vast majority of corporations?
Sidgmore: Last year IP voice was basically people sitting around shouting into their computers. It was a very poor situation from a quality standpoint. Today it's much better in most cases and, yes, occasionally there will be differences in voice quality. I do not believe circuit-switched voice networks are going to go away. I think they work just fine for the majority of core voice traffic and probably will for a long period of time. I do think quality and the simplicity needs to improve.
Gudonis: We are one of the few ISPs that has a strong engineering history with QoS technologies. You will see us introduce those services that support, not only IP telephony, but also videoconferencing and robust file-transfer services over the Internet. But we need scaleable IP-to-PSTN gateways, and we are working with Cisco in this regard.
It's easier for providers to deliver on-Net [IP voice] services, where all traffic stays on my backbone or [for example] the MCI backbone. But crossing that boundary, the inter-ISP transfer of QoS packets, is something that the industry has not worked on yet. There have been technical discussions at the IETF, but there are no business agreements yet.
Schrader: I don't see any technical limitations at all. Maybe bandwidth. But we own the bandwidth.
The only place we're going to deliver high-quality voice and fax and other value-added services, which are extremely sensitive to latency or quality, is through ISPs who are directly buying service from us. If you're thinking of using multiple ISPs linked side-by-side and wondering how they're going to get QoS across these various networks, it ain't gonna happen. We're never going to deal with it.
By the way, I don't think simply reducing your [voice service] costs by a factor of two is enough. You know, executives talking to executives do not care about how much phone calls cost. And if your company has ten thousand or a hundred thousand employees across multiple continents, then you already have a VPN in place and voice is probably already costing you only about ten cents [per minute]. So it's companies between five hundred employees and the Fortune 500. That's where we're going to be playing for multiple offices doing interconnections for PBXes. |