Perhaps some took things a bit too literally. When I said leaders, I simply meant the people who thru experience, connections, or accurate dart throwing capabilities, call the picks. A vast majority of the equities that have been called by the "leaders" have been excellent. It's what happens before and after they are called that is in question. When there was a less splintered approach, the obvious happened and many people made quite a bit of money, of course, some will always lose.... One must also take market conditions into the picture. Those of us who have played the market for many years know that there are times when nothing will move certain parts of the market, good news or not. This is a very toppy market, IMO, and the last to move..., you get the picture. So to me, to waste this window of opportunity, with splintered bickering and cross planning, is nothing short of foolish PS If it makes you happy, forget the Geese <VBG> Fred |