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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!!

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To: Joseph G. who wrote (732)11/16/1996 1:56:00 AM
From: JF Quinnelly   of 108807
 
Maybe you simply don't understand what you read:

>>translation: by VIII BC , there was one pretty homogenous greek (hellenic) people, who spoke same language, had similar culture, united for war with outsiders, etc

Your "translation" isn't what the book is saying at all. The homogenous culture being discussed was the one created out of the migrating Aechaeans, combining with the Greek peoples already on the Anatolian coast of the eastern Aegean, and the islands in between. This included Athens on the mainland and Miletus in Anatolia. This was the Ionian cultural group, and it eventually became the dominant Hellenic culture. The Dorian culture was west and south of this one. Corinth was Dorian, as was Crete and Cyprus. You apparently haven't a clue that Corinth was a Dorian city. The names of column styles confusing you? The sort of homogenized culture you think should have existed didn't come about until after the Persian War, and not long after that they were all conquered by the Macedonians.

>> i think you underestimate greek colonisation, by III BC greek colonies/states occupied most of asia minor, there were many colonies on the black sea coast

This describes Ionian colonies, but the time period is more like 750-550. And I don't think you know enough about Greek civilization to know whether anybody "underestimates greek colonisation", whatever that was supposed to mean.

>>all sicily was greek,

Except for the half that was Carthaginian.

To give you some clue as to what was being discussed, Zeno is famous for Zeno's Paradox. And Zeno was the founder of the Stoa. Zeno was from Cyprus. Penni said he wasn't Greek.
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