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To: Phil(bullrider) who wrote (913)5/24/1998 6:46:00 PM
From: PJ  Read Replies (2) of 12810
 
ANOTHER TIRADE WHICH WOULD PUT ANYONE TO SLEEP:

From the BNGO thread, another lecture to "set the record straight". Notice the energy and number of quoted posts - this was a grand effort.

JD: Your last post, as well as all the others from you, gnawed at me all weekend. You
appear to have taken great offense to my Private Message suggesting those formerly
interested in BNGO take a second look at the company. Then you publicly post a
message that such a suggestion should be viewed as sufficient evidence of a "pump &
dump" scheme in action. Despite your statement, "This will be my last post to this
thread" (see post #8597), and my repeated offers to engage you in civil debate and
cease the personal attacks, you have embarked on a personal crusade to discredit me
and trash American Bingo.

Until now, I have not felt compelled to defend my integrity against your attacks because
I know that those who have closely followed this thread over the past several months
understand that I have been, from time to time, one of AB&G's biggest critics. Just in
case you are interested in doing your homework on me (which you should have done
before you started hurling accusations), I suggest you look at the following posts:
#6720, #6854, #8384, and #8491. These are just a few of the MANY posts from me
critical of AB&G for one thing or another.

You have repeatedly insulted me by accusing me of spreading "garbage", being a paid
"PR Shill", and twice suggesting that, because you think I may actually be Rodney
Babcock operating under an assumed name, I am lying about, of all things, my own
name! And with all that, you have the nerve to ask, "Please don't flame me or
respond if you disagree." (see post #8597). Prior to now, I have not "flamed" you. In
fact, I have supported your right to dissent and welcomed your opinions (if you provide
facts to support them). I was willing to engage you in debate about the merits and
problems inherent in AB&G's current situation based on the best available information
we can get, but you don't seem to want to do that.

But you can't have it both ways, JD. You can't expect me to sit here and let you trash
me while at the same time honoring your request not to respond if I disagree. The last
straw for me was your statement:

"Your posts remind me very much of Rodney's. For every critical comment,
personal insult, bearish sentiment, Rodney would have a dispassionate,
unemotional response. Something really smells here. I hate to see innocent people
hurt."

What are you suggesting? That I change who I am so I appear less like Rodney
Babcock? That dispassionate and unemotional responses are evidence of evil intent?
That throwing screaming flames and unfounded accusations at one another will lead to
better debate and investment decisions? THAT I WILL JUST SIT HERE AND LET
YOU POUND ON ME!?Get real.

You come out of the blue, having rarely posted anything substantive on this thread and
not having been seen here since last December, but you expect people to just
automatically accept you as JessiDani: Knight-In-Shining-Armor, Self-appointed
Protector Of The Innocent, With Motives Pure As New-Fallen Snow. Do you
really expect anybody reading your posts to just accept you and your opinions at face
value? Why should anybody presume that you have some incredible crystal ball that
knows exactly how the AB&G saga will turn out? You seem mighty damn sure of
yourself with comments like,"This is a small cap stock that will never be listed.
There will be no institutional support. The losses that some have experienced will
never be recouped on this stock." But the best you have to offer is that last year,
AB&G MAY have engaged in some questionable practices and, therefore, they are a
bogus "pump & dump" scam and they always will be. If this is how you prepare and
present a case in your law practice, I pity your clients.

I don't pretend to know, and have NEVER claimed to know, how the AB&G situation
will turn out. Like most of us here, I have my opinions, of course, but it should be
obvious that is all they are, opinions. But for every opinion I offer, I base my rationale
on facts (as opposed to innuendo) and, whenever possible, provide documentation to
support my position. You suggest to others that they go back and read the thread. I
suggest you do the same. You will find a very large number of my posts contain links to
sources of information about issues relative to AB&G's business. Some of this
information is not particularly favorable to AB&G.

But let me tell you what really galls me. For all your "righteous" indignation and outrage
at receiving an unsolicited stock recommendation, you have engaged in similar conduct!
The following is the full text of your post #1356, dated 9/19/97:

"To all on BNGO: (OFF TOPIC) Those of you who invested when price below 3, I
know that you have the guts to put your money where there is real potential.
Check out KIDO and KIDOW. Company has technology process that provides
customization of videos. For example, a child's picture sent to company will result
in a Barney video with that child in it. Look at
biz.yahoo.com
biz.yahoo.com
This one should be a $6 stock (from 1 3/4) in 6 months. Warrants are 5/8. I don't
have time to start thread, but people here might be interested."

For all your arrogance about the wisdom of your opinions, KIDO hasn't been more than
a tiny fraction above $2.00 since 11/97 and it has never come anywhere close to $6.00,
reaching a peak of about $2.25 last November. It closed 5/21/98 at $1.875. You even
had the cojones to claim that this stock would more than TRIPLE in six months!!!
Unbelievable! Yes, I have a positive take on AB&G at the moment, but I have never
made any statements like THAT! I guess, being an attorney, application of
situational-ethics and double-standards has become such common practice for you that
you don't even realize you are doing it. Maybe I should start claiming you are a "paid
PR shill" for KIDO, hired to spew off-topic "garbage" on active threads.

You suggest to people, "...it would be better to investigate whether management
engaged in fraudulant behavior last year regarding the stock price, warrents, so
called imminent nasdaq listing, etc." than it is to hold on to their shares and see if
AB&G can turn this situation around. But when I ask how you expect us to do this short
of filing criminal charges, your reply is, "I don't have to investigate such conduct. If I
think that it occurred, I stay away." That's fine for those of you who aren't sitting on
significant paper losses. But what about those of us who are? You want us to sell and
make these losses real just when AB&G appears to be making significant efforts to turn
the situation around? Sorry, JD, I think I'll hold on to my shares for awhile, thank you.

In reviewing your recent posts, I find there are three themes: 1) Trash T.K. Allen's
reputation; 2) Suggest AB&G was, and always will be, a scam company; and 3)
Protect the "innocent" and suggest people invest in "real" stocks. You are so blasted
sure I have a hidden agenda, these themes make me wonder what YOUR agenda is.
Hmmmmm, let's see...............what might JD's motives be? Perhaps you want those
considering BNGO to invest instead in one of your favorite stocks of the moment
(MTIC and PTIS haven't exactly set the world on fire over the past couple of months).
Maybe you are one of the BNGO short-sellers who drove the share price into the toilet
last December and hope that trashing me and AB&G will scare people into selling and
lead to another price decline. Or maaaaaaaaaybe........ you actually think BNGO is a
great turnaround opportunity and hope some of us long-term holders will panic at your
accusations and hand over a truckload of our shares to you cheap.

Sure, I hoped to generate a little more interest in AB&G with my Private Messages but
at least I was candid and up-front about it. You would have us believe that you engaged
in this character assassination (AFTER your original statement that you would only
make ONE post "exposing" me as a "PR shill" involved in a "pump & dump" scheme in
collusion with AB&G management) because you ...hate to see innocent people hurt".
This heart-warming display of altruism comes from, of all people, one of New York
City's lawyers, a group not exactly renowned for such virtues.

If you want to spend your time trashing me, flame away. As requested, I will no longer
respond to your hypocritical and, quite possibly, self-serving comments. In fact, I may
not even read them because you make my blood boil. Instead, I am going to take a
break from this thread for awhile. This argument with you makes me sad, tired, and
disgusted.

In my opinion, AB&G will sink or swim on the wisdom of the new management's
upcoming decisions and the outcome of the Supreme Court case in South Carolina. The
affect of my "PR" work and contributions to this thread on BNGO's share price are
insignificant by comparison. I'm sure I will be back here at some point because I expect
to hold my shares for awhile. But, in the meantime, I have a business to run. So long,
JD. I wish I could say it has been a pleasure.

WHEW.
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