Reading stuff like this from Ajammer, on the ESVS/Yahoo thread, will be helpful for rookie investors, like I am. You'll see some familiar SI names mentioned in this posting.
Re: Netvestajammer_1998 May 25 1998 1:07PM EDTNetvest is a limited partnership, which in itself is a security. They are by law limited to 20 or less people if they are to remain private placements. They are high risk ventures with extremely favorable tax benefits, hence each investor must display the ability to be able to afford the substantial loss which may be involved. That is why Zulu Party Times conjecture about the Newport R. I. yachting crowd makes sense. There is one general partner, Hayton, who makes all the day to day business decisions for the partership. The partership can vote out the general partner at any time and replace him with one of the other partners although he would still maintain a financial interest in the partnership. Usually the general partner is the inceptor of the partnership. He does this by convincing wealthy investors that he has a vehicle and the skill to make that particular vehicle successful. He is therefore the limited partnerships general partner by default at the partnerships inception. He must display to the SEC that he possesses the particular skill required by that partnership. The people who invest in these things are all wealthy, they are not callow and they usually hire lawyers to review the partnership and investigate the general partner and his qualifications. Bill Giles owned the Phiadelphia Phillies baseball club under such an agreement. The general partneship chose to replace him this year. He is still a financial partner but no longer has any say in the day to day operations of the club. Like an owner that is a single entity they also share directly in the revenues generated. Until voted out, the general partner rules. A general partnership has to be registered with the SEC and IRS. Given the sophistication of the investor, a private placement prospectus is all gloom and doom. They would be a tough sell to the ordinary investor. Partytime, writing private placements would be good jobs for JT and OC, they are naturals. There is not much doubt left in my mind, That in order to raise 50 mil in private placement Hayton must have some connection to the "beautiful people". He probably has that connection on the other shore as well. I wouldn't doubt that he probably had the money raised before they even wrote the prospectus. Party, that mutual swapping of the stock was done simply to make sure that ESVS did not lose the prize (NASDAQ listing). Look at the valuations of the two entities. It would be too costly for ESVS to absorb ZULU they(ESVS) have zilch for net worth and revenues. ZULU had 21 mil in their war chest for investment. After the SEC review of the financials. It will be far easier for ZULU to buy out ESVS in toto. That is why all the inside buying of ESVS stock. The insiders know the stock was a bargain and as good as cash, the NASDAQ market Makers knew it too that is why the price was so high on miniscule volume. The insiders at ESVS know the revenues are there. They know the ultimate success of ZULU is imminent, they also know the financial backing is there. Or do you thing they are spending millions so they will be able to paper the walls of their dens with useless stock certificates. Why has no one mentioned one of the never fail truths about investing. The insider buing and selling is the best indicator of FUTURE revenues and growth. The insiders at ESVS have left almost nothing in the float, this has got to say it all. That R. I. connection cleared up one of the few remaining doubts I had. For some reason the private placement angle had blown right by me. The investigative work that wealthy investors put into these placements is awesome. Hayton would have had to come up clean. The SEC does its own investigation of the general partner. The Nasdaq is doing one right now. That is triple jeopardy. Do you think there has been enough investigation of this company? I do. Lets get ready to rummmble! Ajammer ÿ |