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Gold/Mining/Energy : SOUTHERNERA (t.SUF)

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To: INFOMAN who wrote (1312)5/29/1998 3:56:00 AM
From: BozkurtD  Read Replies (2) of 7235
 
InfoMan;

When you mix facts with fiction, your credibility becomes very questionable. I can not believe that you keep posting without a remorse and Gull has the nerve to demand an apology on your behalf.

You have been claiming that you only post so called "research based" and "reputable" information. I guess those words mean something totally different in your dictionary. No wonder everybody else calls you misINFOMAN.

Some of things below are past history but they are necessary to establish your lack of credibility.

You accused SUF with theft on your posting (#891). That is a very serious accusation. If you don't have the proof, then that is very IREESPONSIBLE. I dare you to prove that they did something illegal. Otherwise I demand an apology on SUF's behalf.

You also said"Many others are contemplating legal actions against SUF.". Again, if you don't have any proof (a few names would do), DON'T BRING YOUR HERESAY TO THIS THREAD!!. Because that is malicious and harmful slander. I don't know how it works in SA but in most countries that is a criminal offence.

Because of this M1 incident I have learned a lot of things about the legal system in SA. Seems like there are a lot of shady and questionable areas. If I were you, I wouldn't be bragging about it. For example, I was under the impression that it took several months to register the mining rights. But NGS was able to do that in couple of weeks. As you said on your posting (#891) "The Master of Supreme Court EXERCISED HIS DISCRETION and CONSENTED the sale of the Mineral Rights to NGS." How convenient !!. You (or Gull) claimed later that M1 was a very small issue for Dr. Maduna to get involved. But it seems like it is not a small issue for THE MASTER OF SUPREME COURT to get involved so quickly. Hmmm..I wonder.

I am also puzzled about something. Please enlighten me with your "infinite wisdom(!)" since you know everything (!). If NGS is formed by the "heirs" and the Mineral Rights belonged to the "heirs" then why did NGS buy the rights. And most importantly how much was the purchase price ?.

You also said (#991), " IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION the DME in SA is in the process of issuing a press release to the general media." I guess you are not the general media. You also must have GOOD CONNECTIONS. It is an embarrassment that you can reveal an official press release of the DME four days in advance. See SUF and the other foreign investors are up against?. If this was to happen in Canada, more than likely there would have been an official enquiry about this incident alone. I guess in SA you can getaway with this.

Posting (#1260): You said "Financial institutions WILL not back SUF unless they have the mineral rights registered to their name". I hope you are talking about M1 only. Because they have all the other mineral rights registered to their name. English is not my native tongue but if I am not wrong, WILL defines a definite statement in the future. I did not know that you controlled the financial institutions in SA, UK and Canada. So that you can talk on their behalf. You also said "They have no money". You know what? While you are wasting your breath and trying to keep your master(s) happy with these meaningless and totally unjustified accusations, SUF keeps digging out the Diamond from different areas. BECAUSE, If you have not noticed yet, M1 IS NOT THE ONLY PROPERTY THEY COUNT ON!!.

In your answer to nempela (#1312) you said "only a fool would pursue a particular action when it is so evident that the cause was lost". I totally concur. The minute(!) difference is, IMHO, the only fools are the "heirs". They are being manipulated by DeBeers. But by Gull's admission seems like they don't mind being used as pawns. How sad !!. Money can lower individuals so much and bring out their true vulturous personality.

Posting (#1210). You downplay the SUF's importance for SA's economy. That shows how narrow-minded and short sighted you and your collaborators are. Don't you see SUF is not the only issue here. (Also see posting #1318 by jadrew). I also know a couple of portfolio managers (and I am sure they are not the only ones) who are following this issue with great interest. If the results are against the foreign investor, they may think twice before they buy the shares of a company that may want to invest in SA. Because this whole issue of manipulating the legal system creates big question marks. Not just the land claims but all the other legal tools that protect the interests of the foreign investors would be questioned. Simple logic. That wouldn't be good news for SA. Also you are not part of NAFTA, EU nor Pacific Rim Countries. THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY IS. So before you say this whole thing is not going to effect SA, think again!!. Because do not forget:
THE CANCER STARTS WITH ONE AND ONLY ONE CELL ALONE!!!.
But it seems like Dr. Maduna is a visionary and can see the bigger picture.

Unfortunately, I don't have the time to scrutinize everything you post. But I believe I gave enough examples to show that YOU ARE NOT CREDIBLE!!. Finally, if you believe that you and your "heirs" are happy and this whole thing is over (you claim that NGS has won), the you have accomplished your mission. BUT YOU ARE STILL HERE!!. Why? You have been using the "Best Defence Is Offence" tactic since you have started posting here. This tells me that you still have to defend something. So this proves that this whole issue is far from over for you and for collaborators and YOU KNOW THAT!.

Regards

BozkurtD
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