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This article in Barron's is an interview with a private funds manager, Joseph L. Toms. The interview is concerning the downturn of the overall market and why this usual bull is turning bearish. Overall tone of interview makes you want to short the S&P; however, the following excerpt made my ears turn up . . .
Q: Everybody fights the last war. Our grandparents never stopped worrying about the next depression. We spent our formative years in gas lines. A: Yes, yes, yes. Inflation is the wrong bogeyman. I also believe that the oil-price drop is not a positive for this market, but a negative.
Q: Are you smoking something funny out there in California? How can paying less at the pump be a negative? A: One, the news of the oil-price drop is already in the market; we all know it. Two, the magnitude of the drop can't be explained simply by the excess supply. So lack of demand has obviously played a major role in this price decline. My argument is that a lack of demand means a slowing global economy -- and how do you support stock prices in a slowing global economy? I think a lot of people have been diverted by OPEC's squabbling and overlooked the lack of demand. My final point is, what's likely to happen to oil prices in the future? While it may not happen, we have created the incentive for OPEC to find a way to limit supply.
Q: But they never get along for long. A: Maybe so, but low oil prices are already factored into the stock market. So suppose OPEC were successful in getting the price of oil up 40% from here. Is that in the market? I think the answer is no. So your risk parameters with oil are very poor. The good news is out. And it's masking the slowdown in demand and also the potential for OPEC to limit supplies in a way that increases the price of oil at a time when the economy is slowing -- which could be a real double whammy. It's always the things that people don't take into account that get the market. If we all know something exists, it has been discounted in the market and it's not that big an issue.
Q: None of this sounds very healthy for a market trading at historically high valuations. Then again, they've been off the charts for years now. A: Valuations only matter in a critical sense at a certain place in the cycle. You can have high valuations in a rapidly expanding economy -- and they may be sustained for a long time by the combination of that rapid expansion and the bullishness that it creates. People's attitudes toward the news create this driver to valuations that allows them to sustain themselves -- perhaps unreasonably -- but for a long time. To me, the critical issue of valuation comes into play when there is a divergence in the economic trend relative to the valuation level. Meaning that when stocks are very depressed and the economy picks up, they have nowhere to go but up. Or, in this case, I'd argue that it matters that valuations are at all-time highs now -- even though it didn't a couple of years ago -- because the economic trend is starting to deteriorate, and so these valuations can't be sustained. They now discount any potential good news completely.
The entire interview is very interesting and worth reading if you have access . . .
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