re: Sheldon's conversation with Rene [repost from Yahoo! Market_ Trends TPP.V thread; link at bottom -- post 595] as told by "vf500_"
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Sheldon Fast : A very BIG error from Rene in your post!
Jun 13 1998, 5:11AM EDT, vf500_
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3. He had noticed some discussion on protein content and made several points:
The measurement of protein is always done on a dry weight. That is, if 10% protein in the incoming stream that means on a hundred lbs of waste coming in made up of fibre, fat, carbohydrates, water and protein, 10 lbs is dried protein. The bacteria feed on the carbohydrates and fibre and multiply enormously, enhancing protein to about 35%. The bacteria do not have a chance to start using the protein as the time is too short (typically 24 hours) before they are dried. This is typical input and output numbers for the process. This also why this is a much better process than either cooking or composting. Composting ends up using the protein and leaving the fibre which then still has to be disposed of and is not a valuable product, smells while it is working and takes a lot of land and is a very slow.
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See up there where you wrote Rene said "The measurement of protein is always done on a dry weight."
and below you state Rene said "That is, if 10% protein in the incoming stream that means on a hundred lbs of waste coming in made up of fibre, fat, carbohydrates, water and protein, 10 lbs is dried protein."
See the contradiction? carbohydrates, WATER and protein! Rene said DRY WEIGHT! (there he is trying to confuse people by comparing apples to oranges again)
If lettuce is say 90% water. So 100 lbs of lettuce is 10 lbs dry weight. Therefore according to Rene, he is getting only 1, ONE pound of protein for that 100 lbs of original lettuce waste. ie 10% of the 10 lb dry weight is only one pound! 1% protein from the original 100 lbs.
on a different tangent now - nothing relating to you directly Sheldon:
<<The bacteria feed on the carbohydrates and fibre and multiply enormously, enhancing protein to about 35%>>
and
<<Composting ends up using the protein and leaving the fibre which then still has to be disposed of and is not a valuable product, smells while it is working and takes a lot of land and is a very slow.>>
First Rene states that the bacteria use the carbs and FIBRE FIRST and then he says later these same bacteria LEAVE the fibre. Rene has before stated himself that these bacteria are naturally present so they are naturally the same bugs. Why this contradiction on fibre being used and not being used by the same bugs?
<<The bacteria do not have a chance to start using the protein as the time is too short (typically 24 hours) before they are dried.>>
So now Rene the process has gone from 72 hours to 48 hours and now to 24 hours??
What next, are you going to state next that the product get instantly digested and dried as soon as it is feed into the system?
<<This also why this is a much better process than either cooking or composting.>>
Why the air heaters in your system and the heating coils in the tanks? A true thermophilic process does not need heating coils to create heat nor does it need the air heated, the process should be self sustaining!
Rene, you are really grasping now - how much different is your end product from dried garbage?
Why does it have to be diluted on a 1:10 basis? Why can't it be used on its own at 100% strength?
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