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To: tero kuittinen who wrote (673)6/17/1998 1:13:00 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (2) of 34857
 
Nokia seems to have done so much right! And they are getting their just rewards. Even with cdma2000 they are in great position. Whichever way things go, they will be in the box seat - licensed for cdmaOne, selling their own handsets and own chips, with a wealth of marketing and handset design experience. They have done and are doing a great job. They had the foresight to adopt cdmaOne in its infancy. They will no doubt ensure they remain in the forefront as it develops and every indication is that they will succeed admirably.

But,
You are labouring under a misunderstanding here:
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"If you think that my calling Qualcomm "parasitic" is surprisingly venomous, how about those "GSM nazi" comments and those endless "socialistic Scandianavia" slurs regularily regurgitated by Qualcomm enthusiasts? How come that is humor but any Qualcomm criticism is venom? Have you often challenged people for using references of nazism and communism in connection with Ericsson and Nokia? I think there's a clear double standard in how you can use semi-racist insults against foreign companies but if somebody dares to suspect the business strategy of an American firm it is instantly condemned as nationalistic bias."
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Allow me, as the coiner of the aptly descriptive GSM Nazis, to point out that it was totally in response to the nasty, defamatory accusations of fraud in regard to Mr Irwin Jacobs by that employee and subsequently consultant to L M Ericsson a Mr Bill Frezza. And I always used it scrupulously in conjunction with the phrase, "CDMA Mafia" which was a name given to Qualcomm and those associated with earlier attempts to create IS-95 CDMA. "GSM Nazis" was accurate and remains so and perhaps even increasingly so as L M Ericsson continues their propaganda about CDMA, their patents, their position as inventors of CDMA and YOU also propagate the lie that Ericsson were dominant inventors and creators of CDMA in mobile phones.

If the shoe fits Tero, you better wear it!

Now, perhaps you don't know much what the word Mafia means, but it is not the name of a church group and their modus operandi were comparable with Nazis. Don't pretend that it was used in a cute or joking manner either because a reputable man, who spent his life in pursuit of technology and created with his friends cmdaOne for the world was accused of fraud. He was accused of dishonesty.

There was a smear campaign to discredit IS-95 CDMA, Qualcomm and Irwin Jacobs. L M Ericsson were the focal point of that denigration.

Now you and they are continuing efforts to attempt to deny Qualcomm and Irwin Jacobs their IPR with disparaging comments about leeches, greedy etc etc ad nauseum. I believe it is because of your background from a socialist, totalitarian realm [= European] where confiscation of individuals and their property was the norm - "all for the greater good" of course. Messrs Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Leif the Lucky Ericsson, Marx [not Harpo and sibling] being exponents of the system.

IPR is vital to civilisation. Tribalism and collectivism leads to a loin cloth life as individuals are suppressed.

Don't trot out your "racist" label to try to escape the accusations - the accusation applies to the state of mind, not the DNA.

Somebody said Nokia doesn't profit from IPR? Oh yes? Okay, I'll make a total clone and sell it with the Nokia name - nobody will be able to tell the difference. Already many products are extant in the world like that. Do you think Nokia would squawk? Go on, answer that one question. Would Nokia object to a complete copy of their IPR, trade dress, trade secrets, patents or whatever you want to call it? Of course. And rightly so. Should they be forced to sell that IPR or have it confiscated? Of course not!

Maurice

[bloody thieving GSM Nazis trying to steal IPR from the cmda2000 Mafia] - and I never claimed it was humour. I don't think it is funny at all. If I was Irwin Jacobs, I'd have felt insulted, demeaned and pretty angry.

And of course, being a New Zealander, I'm sure you'll understand that I'm not a nationalistic USA/Qualcomm supporter. I'm more inclined to the Finnish ways - small, independent etc etc.
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