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To: John Mansfield who wrote (18805)6/19/1998 3:09:00 PM
From: John Mansfield  Read Replies (1) of 31646
 
'Today, now, here in WDC, the Y2K war is raging.'

'Given the state of the remediation, I'm expecting significantly higher billing rates through 2003.'

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On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 15:23:04, messig@performance-us.com (mce) wrote:
Welcome back Mike!> Hello,>
> As a stupid headhunter (but one who tries his best to avoid Y2K
> recruiting) I couldn't agree more. Leaving people hanging is probably
> the worst thing that recruiters do across the board.>
> A couple of observations and then flame away:>
> Many Y2K programmers are very out of touch with business reality. This
> is America, even if it means the end of the world you won't get what
> you think you are worth because corporations would then be allowing
> you to control them. Corporations run the US and no mere workers
> however important they are (or think they are) will ever be allowed to
> dictate to them. It is only partially about money...
Nope, nope, nope. We have a unique situation here, enterprise systems
will break and there is 10 years of work for every code head out there.
Corps might *wish* they are calling the shots but they aren't.
Two years ago, it was different, there was a surplus of qualified
personnel, companies could pick and choose. Just because the mid
management in corporate America (and the rest of the world) *thinks*
they can solve Y2K in the time left, doesn't mean that it can be done.
Today, now, here in WDC, the Y2K war is raging. Senator Bennett and
Congressman Horn are hammering on the agencies. The DOD's Inspector
General is ripping the Pentagon's progress reports. This is just the
verification of the situation as reported in the superprogrammer's
grapevine over the last year.
The business reality is *you* (the corp, the mid manager, the HR
department) have 562 days before your internal and external
infrastructure rips itself to pieces and if you are nice people and say
the right things, one or two of us *might* be willing to help you out.
> Corporate greed and Y2K contractor greed are currently in a dead> heat...
No, it's corporate idiots as depicted in Dilbert and code-heads standing
up for themselves for once.
It's like this, during an extended hot spell, 105 degrees, 90%
humidity, your air conditioner breaks down, so does everyone elses. Your
kids are fussing, your spouse is surly and you're getting a bad rash in
'special' body places. You call HVAC contractor after HVAC contractor,
they're all booked up... maybe I can pencil you in three weeks, nope,
nope, can't help you pal, sorry.It will be like that but much, much worse.
> Reality check: what percentage of humanity will ever earn $75+ an
> hour? And you want how much?
The reality check is: around here, the highschool dropouts who mow
lawns get $65/hour... and we are nice to them, the retired geezers who
fix small mechanical things get $49/hour; the sign at my car dealership
says Labor: $75/hour. Oh, and I have a significant infrastructure, pay
my own medical insurance, buy software, computers, etc.
As for how much, it depends on the job, location, quals and reqs.
> Have any of you considered how silly you will look if the sky doesn't> fall?
No danger of that. We gearheads know how fragile software is.
> Have any of you ever considered what the payback might be?
Given the state of the remediation, I'm expecting significantly higher
billing rates through 2003.
> Just a few thoughts from your typical blood sucking recruiter.
It's about a fair wage for critical, important work. It's just
business, nothing personal.> > Mike Essig> PTG, Inc. cory hamasaki 562 days.

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