Gerald,
If AMD makes the best chip in the world in tiny quantities, who cares?
Well 4.5 Million chips a quarter is pretty decent. Granted it's only a fraction.. But only a fraction (larger than 4.5 Million I'm sure, but anyway) are used for playing games. Every gamer wants a K6-2 right now (at least the ones I know.. these are the same people that said AMD sucked just 1 month ago).
For them to be a serious competitor they must improve their yields, right?
Agreement there.. but don't count on them NOT being able to do it.. just remember that they might be able to. (despite how unlikley this is given their track record.. "stranger things have happened")
As far as Segas, Nintendos and Sonys go, you used them to trivialize the need for additional processing power for game playing by implying that a high-end gamer wouldn't use a P-II because higher-performance alternatives exist.
Again.. I'll repost this one..
Did I ever say that Segas or Nintendos were the only answer NO. I was only saying that they are competition.
You were talking about gamers, not "everything" users. The difference is distinct and an important one. In addition, the new Sega (I think it's sega) will run Windows CE, which means you will be able to get marginal productivity apps for the Sega system and a net browser.. sounds like it's starting to turn into a PC to me (i.e. general purpose calculator, since that's all computers are anyway)
>>Did I say people won't play games on a PII. NOPE. I just said
>>there were other alternatives, some of which ofter a better
>>price/performance ratio.
So? The added utility of General Purpose computer vs. a dedicated game machine changes that equation. Either adjust performance to reflect the added utility or proportion the price between game/non-game applications.
See my last post about a PII-400 for a gaming system versus a PII-233 with an addon card.. the price comes up in favour of the $pecial board$ as you put it..
Did you look at the reviews at the Tom's Hardware site? It's more than just frame rate. It's also resolution. Or are you referring to your prediction that the CPU will eventually be the IO/interrupt handler for all the $pecial board$ plugged into the system?
See above. A g200 will push out 1024x768 at decent frames rate even on a PII-233 or K6-2 or whatever. That's much better than ANY non-assisted CPU. In addition 1024x768 is really as high as you need to go and as high as "most" "normal" display technologies allow for a reasonable price (1280x1024 requires a huge jump in video card AND CPU in addition to pricier monitors, so it really is a HUGE jump).
Why do you ignore the fact that no matter how fast a processor has been in the past that in just a couple of years it's considered slow and obsolete? I remember how that 386-33 was such a screamer! How could anyone need more? How about that awesome Pentium-66! Software always eventually expands to fit the hardware available. It always has and always will. Just because we can't imagine what it will be doesn't mean it won't happen. It just means that those who can imagine it will make a lot of money.
Again you are trying to read in-between the lines. Sure faster processors always exist and people will always want to go faster IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO. So people who know have PentiumMMX Cpus will buy a 400Mhz PII when they cost the same as that P55c they bought 2 months ago.
You seem to be saying that we're in a New Era of computing and processors are now so fast that there's nothing that anyone can ever do that will eat all that computing power.
No where did I make a statement that general. Hell I just ordered 2 $10,000 IBM Workstations (M Pro Intellistations) using an Intel processor (PII 400, dual, 640 Megs of ram, etc, etc, etc). Why because for the work we do it pays off. There will always be people like us who exist. I have never _EVER_ said that computers will get so fast that we will never use all that power. I am just saying that at this stage of the game for 85%+ of the buying public the power available is way ahead of the application curve.. sure it will probably come back into line, but when?
We're at the very beginning of the computer era, not the end.
I agree and wouldn't have it any other way.
>>Boy I wish I could be as closed minded as some of you folks,
>>it sure would make life a lot simpler.
Another ad hominem, but I'll return this one:
You already are, just on the opposing side.
See my remark about the 2 machines I just ordered. I have no problems with Intel's product.. just don't think it's a good investment right now and I'm saying why..
Steve |
